Duffield under investigation

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The article has been archived but if anyone has a share token

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-mp-rosie-duffield-under-investigation-liking-tweet-offensive-zz20fd7pw

For liking a tweet by Glinner poking fun at Izzard.

Blond, charming, I doubt very much Izzard would have failed to use his talents long before any danger came his way, rather as Goebbels did, a man who was disabled and arguably camp going on the evidence, but was never at any risk of the fate he helped inflict on others because he was in with the right crowd. Spent a lot of time watching Hollywood movies in his home cinema when not making films, soaking himself in the culture his party was focused on destroying.

So the people of Canterbury no longer have the option to re-elect their sitting MP despite her being by all accounts hard working and popular with her constituents?

How very democratic.

God forbid women should have the option to vote for a candidate who actually gives a shit about them.

It proves, again, that women do not have equality and representation in parliament, because the women who have made it into the selection groups for MPs? Only get there by pandering vigorously to men and being very good girls for the patriarchy.

We see how those very, very few who slipped through and try standing up for the equality of women get treated, and discarded. Joanna Cherry is another one.

Heavily male dominated system, run by men for men. Where the token women are allowed so long as they're the Right Kind of women who do what they're bloody well told and focus on penis people at all times.

I know that Twitter doesn’t cause a witch hunt, people do that, although the way that it amplifies messages could be said to contribute.

But the act of liking something is pressing an icon on a screen. It can mean anything from ‘I don’t disagree’, to ‘I wholeheartedly support this’; from ‘I like this person so want to give them online support’ to ‘I have just clicked on this by accident’.

When did the merest twitch on social media become taken so seriously?

Liking someone else’s tweet is not the same as writing one yourself, speaking in Parliament, speaking to the press, writing a signed statement or speaking in court. Nor, for that matter, is it the same as inviting convicted members of a terrorist organisation to the Houses of Parliament less than a month after their organisation carried out a major attack in the UK and attempted to murder dozens of your Parliamentary colleagues. That doesn’t prevent you from being made party leader.

I can see her losing her seat; she has always been close in a seat that has been Tory forever; if the woke lot doesn't vote for her, the Tory candidate will come through the middle, so to speak. A great pity, as party politics aside, she is a voice we need in parliament.

Perhaps Izzard could run for office in Canterbury. That would be ...er interesting to see.

EI is extremely heterosexual, so EI would have been fine there.

The Nazis loved cross-dressing at parties, which makes sense when you remember WWII was still the same era as music hall, so EI's act would have brought the house down. So EI would still have been fine.

If that's not enough, the Nazis also continued the custom, established during the Weimar republic, of issuing cross-dressing permits to adult males who wanted to cross-dress all the time. So yet again, EI would have been fine.

Some soft Tories would vote for her surely? Especially if its going to be a labour landslide anyway.

Nah, democracy demands that Kent, the border county, should be solidly blue, and stuff the rest of us.

hard working and popular with her constituents

On the contrary

https://whitstableviews.com/2022/01/30/why-canterbury-whitstable-needs-a-new-labour-m-p/

As the election becomes reality I’ve been wavering. I’ve been thinking of re-joining the Labour Party to fight from the inside.

I don’t think I can do it. It’s going to be KJK. Although, to be fair, I don’t agree with so many of Labours half thought through neoliberal ideaa but that’s maybe another thread.

This is an interesting article in that, although it’s written from a non-gender-critical perspective, it’s much more nuanced than these things tend to be.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/central-european-history/article/transgender-life-and-persecution-under-the-nazi-state-gutachten-on-the-vollbrecht-case/0779A24B130C4F0CA64DB639FA6DBF46
Of particular interest are:

• legislation against and persecution of homosexuals and cross-dressers was fairly ubiquitous in Europe at the time;
• Aryans arrested for ‘crimes’ of this kind tended to be imprisoned rather than sent to death camps;
• there was considerable inconsistency in the revoking of permits to ‘live as the opposite sex;
• the article is based on the experiences of 27 individuals.

The evidence very much suggests that Eddie Izzard, as a straight white blond man, could have evaded persecution and certainly murder via strategies that were simply not available to Jews.

He’s a Luvvie who not only rewrites his own history, but the history of the world to give himself a main part in something that’s fuck all to do with him.

No , Twitter reports many things that MSM do not .

This is disgusting , she does not deserve to be treated like this . I would say full public apology or she stands as an independent. I can not for the life of me say how she can be accused of being anti- semetic for liking the post . And she has been exactly the opposite in her support for the Jewish community.

it’s clear what Labour stand for and it’s Eddie/ suzie Izzard . We see you .

Running for Brighton apparently ?

I'm her constituent. Even if she could stand she won't get in again. She got in on student votes. The two universities are both captured so all these votes will be lost now. As pp said we will end up with Tory again, probably brazier's (last mp) son. We've just ousted a vile Tory council though but to lib Dems not labour. I can't see it happening for the general election.

i had been considering voting for Labour but I won’t if this is true.

It’s shows the party has not really changed its stance.

I have decided I'm not voting Labour at the next General election, I just can't do it. I've been a Labour supporter for 30 years and I'm sadly now politically homeless. It's a bloody terrifying place to be in.

Not sure how much faith I'd put in an article that grossly mischaracterises the underlying court case. "In November 2022, the court in Cologne ruled against Vollbrecht. To my knowledge, this is the first time that a German court has recognized transgender people as victims of the Nazi state." This is complete bullshit and essentially inverts what the court said. This was a libel case brought by Vollbrecht. The court explicitly ruled that the hashtag accusing her of denying NS crime would normally indeed amount to libel, given that transpeople weren't systematically persecuted. However, it made a bizarre heat-of-the-kiment type exception for people using the hashing in the context of transgender controversy and thus declined to sanction the specific tweeter targeted in the suit.

@GrumpyPanda That’s sort of my point (though I didn’t know the background, so thank you for pointing that out). What I was trying to say is that even an article arguing that trans people were victims of Nazi persecution had to accept that their persecution was both qualitatively and quantitatively different from that experiences by other groups.

Totally possible, I suspect that the majority of Labour voters would vote for whoever gets the official party endorsement without knowing why she even lost it.

But you might be surprised by the number of tory voters who would defect to her as an independant.

Yep. Izzard is standing in Brighton. I have family in the area. They are as labour as you can get, but are totally unimpressed by Eddie's selection.