Trans footballer who broke a woman's knee quits team and threatens lawsuit over female players refusing to play against them

[Hoardasurass]

So as the title says a biological male footballer who was allowed by the fa to play on a woman's team with the inevitable consequences for a female player has thrown his tous out of the pram because the women's teams refuse to play against him and is threatening to sue the other clubs so he can play against 16 and 17 year old girls and women

Transgender woman footballer who broke knee of a player quits team https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12771191/Transgender-woman-footballer-left-opponents-terrified-broke-knee-player-blocking-shot-quits-team-threatens-sue-discrimination-rivals-refused-compete-against-her.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

Shocked! Shocked I tell you 😒

Sighs!

Or thought he was untouchable due to his special status.

Sex positivity, sex work is work. Accuse anyone who does so much as raise an eyebrow of whorephobia as well as transphobia

The bloke's a walking advert for Queer Theory and no doubt lauded and encouraged in his bubble.

This is insane. I would not allow my daughter to play football against a 30 year old man pretending to be a woman. I would assume he had some of the worst motivations possible. And if there were handmaidens who said otherwise it would be "goodbye team"

The other thing about these trans prostitutes is that they seem to do it with a degree of enthusiasm and willingness (not withstanding their MH issues) because it 'validates' their identity as a woman, even thought they're having gay sex with men. Which makes it harder to evidence the terrible damage that prostitution does to actual women, the vast majority of whom are doing it under coercion or because of extreme poverty.

Well, well who'd have seen that coming, what a surprise.

Wow, that really is a most astonishing turn of events.

I am all astonishment

Jeez I wish I hadn't read those screenshots.

Men who want to roleplay schoolgirls while having sex being allowed onto football teams with actual teenage girls

HOW can everyone not see what's going on now?

Just the kind of role model teen girls need, amirite?

Just because this man prostitutes himself playing the role of a 'schoolgirl' everyone is jumping to the conclusion he wants to play football with teenage girls for nefarious reasons. Honestly, you're all so cynical.

Fucking hell I would just assume the club organizer was simple. Didn't they think a 30 year bloke was a bit dubious playing with teenage girls? I mean why are they so spineless. He didn't have to be included. That was a choice they made.

All about him, as ever.

Does playing at being a schoolgirl make him a schoolgirl? 🤔

Well!! Who'd have thunk it!!

Jeez I wish I hadn't read those screenshots.

You and me both.

chutneysauce, thankyou so much for sharing your experience. I think it’s so interesting to see how women enable these men, and how they put aside their own feelings to do so:

• feeling uncomfortable in the changing rooms
• feeling unsafe training against him
• feeling that the whole set up was unfair to opponents
• maybe there was a woman not getting picked for the team?

But, no doubt, feeling unable to voice any of this because of not wanting to appear transphobic/bigoted; and presumably, not sure whether anyone else felt the same? Or is it so entrenched that even if all the women are known to feel this way, it’s still not ok to voice it?

I’m curious about how you feel now, looking back on it? This is not a reflection on whether the TW player was a laugh & fun to be around (which is probably what I’d mean by ‘nice’ regarding a casual acquaintance)

In any case, this is exactly why the governing bodies should lead - it’s not fair on the players to expect them to manage it

@HagoftheNorth the thing is, me teammates very clearly DID voice their opinions at the start but there was nothing they or the club could do since it was within the rules. Eventually as the said, the team grew quite fond of this player and it wasn't a problem to them anymore after a while however I'm sure new players didn't feel comfortable.

My feelings haven't changed since then. I'm not anti trans and am all for people being what they want to be but only as long as no one is hurt and women aren't screwed over. When it comes to certain sports I am very against it because it's just not a fair competition. I understand the frustrating for trans people not being accepted if they played for men's teams etc but surely we've got to the stage now where actual trans leagues should be created (in most sports).

Well!! Who'd have thunk it!!

It seems to be a consistent finding that people who test boundaries and transgress in one area have similar patterns in others. This is a strong argument for considering impact in the round and not restricting to case by case circumstances.

I agree. And not really fair on the clubs either. Especially at the lower level, a lot of them will be run on shoestrings by volunteers. They'll be very ill equipped to stand up against federation policy. The FA are a huge organisation, awash with resources and cash. Often the only real recourse people will have in this situation is to vote with their feet, no pun intended.

They do have a lot of mixed 5 a side leagues near me and I've grown up playing football with boys but I'll never compete in a mixed serious competition because I don't fancy being tackled or shot at by a man. So I guess that answers the question as to my feelings on it now. Until the FA make changes there is nothing anyone can really do right now (without risking fines etc).

Gosh, dodgy online activities? Who’d have thunk it.

Not just online if the adverts attract "customers".

Grim.

I think many of us on MN FWR have been in favour of a campaign from activists to counter any lack of acceptance of these male athletes into the male category for sports. However, it is very much ignored.

While I do understand that you and your team grew fond of your team mate, I am sure that you realise that their playing at any time did put any female playing against or with them at risk of being hurt and the inherent unfairness in every game. And that didn't even include any potential harm in any female single sex space.

While you and some of your team ended up either burying your discomfort for the sake of this person's comfort, that actually is part of the harm right there. Your own dismissal, self dismissal too, of your own concerns to prioritise this player.

The FA and the English football league (or whoever is responsible) should never have put you in that situation.

I know. Safeguarding, pattern recognition, joining up dots and basic common sense is just all so MEAN.

My feelings haven't changed since then. I'm not anti trans and am all for people being what they want to be but only as long as no one is hurt and women aren't screwed over

It is not anti-trans to want safety, fairness, dignity and respect for women ffs and I am sick of people trying to portray that it somehow is and caveating everything with that phrase. It is not even anti-men it is pro-women and expecting them to receive the same basic considerations as men.

News flash - women are being screwed over and worse.

World swimming did and even tried to organise a full competition just a couple of months ago duringa big swimcomp so male races, female races, disabled races and trans races. The trans races had to be scrapped as no trans swimmers signed up not even Lia Thompson.
It's not about being included or being able to compete its about validation and the power trip/sexual gratification they get by forcing women to be pawns in their fantasy