Trans footballer who broke a woman's knee quits team and threatens lawsuit over female players refusing to play against them

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So as the title says a biological male footballer who was allowed by the fa to play on a woman's team with the inevitable consequences for a female player has thrown his tous out of the pram because the women's teams refuse to play against him and is threatening to sue the other clubs so he can play against 16 and 17 year old girls and women

Transgender woman footballer who broke knee of a player quits team https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12771191/Transgender-woman-footballer-left-opponents-terrified-broke-knee-player-blocking-shot-quits-team-threatens-sue-discrimination-rivals-refused-compete-against-her.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

Thank you :)

Yes and my story is going back 20 years ago. It was definitely challenged by my teammates initially and there was nothing they or the club could do. In terms of changing rooms, one of my other teammates made the point that we had plenty of gay women in our team and were comfortable changing in front of them.

I have since known and played with / against others.

The male competitor is hidden in every shot

So, that team deliberately made sure that the other teams weren't aware that they would be playing against a male?

Wow.

In terms of changing rooms, one of my other teammates made the point that we had plenty of gay women in our team and were comfortable changing in front of them.

Curious to know what point exactly they thought they were making.

Clutching at straws? It doesn't really make it any more palatable.

I think women's football is particularly vulnerable to the infiltration of trans ideology. First you have the nature of a team game, where you are taught to put the team first, secondly it has always been very accepting of gay and gender non-confirming women which primed it, thirdly, the FA seems to have been captured early and permits males to complete in the women's game.

This makes a perfect storm where women feel they are not able to complain and if they are, they face very unpleasant consequences. I've seen the cognitive dissonance of players saying they are scared to play much stronger players, but in the same breath say they are happy to play against self-IDing trans males, because they are terrified of being accused of transphobia. Ultimately they just walk away from the game, as I did.

The 'team' aspect is a factor too. I can completely see how @chutneysauce would feel the need to defend her team mate from abuse in the same way as you would if a team mate was being abused because of their race, religion or sexuality. Even though you feel they shouldn't be on the team the rules say they can be and your opponents are name calling one of yours.

This player was a nice person

No. This male was invading a female space. Don't be naive. There's nothing nice about a male selfishly violating women's boundaries and putting their safety at risk.

@Waitwhat23 yeah. It was 2015 - very much the era of 'no debate' plus 'tiny minority' plus 'it'll never happen'.

I'm sure what they thought they were doing was protecting. Because that's how women are taught to frame what they do. I wonder what they would say about it now. That team did lose, BTW, which is probably why it didn't make a splash. But I think of the woman who didn't get a place in the team.

This player was a nice person

Hmmmm that man was playing on a woman's team despite being the wrong sex which in my opinion means actually no, this man is not a nice person!

How is it anything but a pyrrhic victory for a team who wins because of the unfair advantage of fielding a male player (even if it is 'within the rules')?

'Woo hoo! We won! We made women on our own team uncomfortable, made our competitors unsafe and generally devalued women's sports in order to pander to men's special feelings, but woo hoo! We won!'

A transwoman (she was then, although I understand they now identify as nonbinary) competed in a women's team in 'my' sport a few years back, without publicity. In itself it's a relatively high profile event, and the team made a training montage video. The male competitor is hidden in every shot. The team protected her from abuse and outing.

Human shields. Women enabling a man. Preserving his fiction for him so he can crack on using women and women's sports, and protecting him from having to deal with anyone pointing out the issues.

Sexism written so large it's painted as a lovely positive thing those women did.

Like the whole 'he's a nice person'.

Fgs, Stockholm Syndrome.

I used to play football from time to time with a transwomen about fifteen years ago. The difference was that no-one knew they were a transwoman, all we knew that was that they were very strong and had an aggression problem and no-one really liked playing with them as we didn't feel safe. That - and a few other things - all made sense when I found out they were a biological male a few year later (after they apparently destransitioned).

Ok. Thank you. Abuse can be considered many things though these days I guess. For instance if women were standing on the sideline yelling ‘he’s a man!’, is that abuse or protesting?

It is all in the past now anyway, however threats of violence are never acceptable. But I agree with others, no that person was not nice. A ‘nice‘ person would not have played in the women’s team regardless of being ‘allowed’. A male who respected women and girls would not have broached those boundaries in the first place.

I think putting women in the position of having to protect a male from reality, being expected to use language to create an illusion for that male against their choice or perceptions, to have to change and undress with a male whether or not they consent, and to play with a male who may injure them with the risk of all the names and threats and anger they will face if they dare to raise these possible high sources of distress to themselves that they would never encounter from a female player or a female only team?

Is pretty abusive.

I think requiring those women to not protest or stand up for themselves or allow themselves to voice 'this is unfair and prioritises one man over all women' because it will be called abusive, or may possibly incite someone else to say something this male will not like and may call abusive?

Is pretty actually abusive.

Why does it matter for the person with the penis and not for the people without one?

Well well well this is "surprise" 🙄...

The 30 year old man who is suing the Sheffield and Hallamshire Women and Girls League for not forcing 16 year old girls to play football against him markets himelf online as a prostitute who dresses up and role plays as a schoolgirl
https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1727243736369992043

Oh surprise , Mrs J!

Oh gosh. No one could possibly have predicted that.

Well, well who'd have seen that coming, what a surprise.

I wouldn't count on the FA to find their common sense and backbone a more corrupt organisation you'd be hard pressed to find.

No one should be encouraging that man into changing rooms with teenagers!!

I do rather wonder, with this new information in mind, if his departure from the team was entirely voluntary or precipitated by some, erm, communication with the relatives of the younger players.

I'm finding Facebook comments on this story interesting... on the football clubs page, on Pink news etc. Basically... a lot of laughing faces but comments hidden
I think that shows that the majority really don't think this should be allowed.

I suspect he actually left the team without a fuss, whilst initially being defiant, because he wasnt clever enough to hide his activities as a prostitute online.

Well that's not a surprise is it?
🙄

I'm so naive. I wasn't expecting that.