Trans footballer who broke a woman's knee quits team and threatens lawsuit over female players refusing to play against them

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So as the title says a biological male footballer who was allowed by the fa to play on a woman's team with the inevitable consequences for a female player has thrown his tous out of the pram because the women's teams refuse to play against him and is threatening to sue the other clubs so he can play against 16 and 17 year old girls and women

Transgender woman footballer who broke knee of a player quits team https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12771191/Transgender-woman-footballer-left-opponents-terrified-broke-knee-player-blocking-shot-quits-team-threatens-sue-discrimination-rivals-refused-compete-against-her.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

@Truthlikeness and @Chersfrozenface .. this conversation did promt me to look it up..

'It is compulsory for all affiliated clubs to have public liability insurance and all affiliated teams to have personal accident insurance.'..

and looking up the details of the policies.. yes.. a broken bone will result in a payout of £250.

So for all those posters who say.. 'how will clubs get insurance....'.. the reality is the exposure is pretty low.

Excuse the format.. my phone has a mind of it's own and I can't correct it..

The 30 year old man who is suing the Sheffield and Hallamshire Women and Girls League for not forcing 16 year old girls to play football against him markets himelf online as a prostitute who dresses up and role plays as a schoolgirl

https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1727243736369992043

There are solicitors firms that advertise their services in claiming compensation for sports injuries.

If insurance claims are pretty low, only successful compensation claims for large sums are likely to concdntrate minds

There are claims against rugby bodies with regard to head injuries, of course, so such action is not unprecedented.

This is the third time this info & link has been posted.

Well the press has picked up on his "sex work" and people are pointing out the safeguarding issues around his using the single sex facilities with 16 year old girls. I don't think that this is going the way Fran, the club and the FA expected

Transwoman footballer is former 'naughty schoolgirl' sex worker https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12783343/Transwoman-footballer-women-refused-play-sex-worker-naughty-schoolgirl-surprise-skirt-escort-site.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

I don't think that this is going the way Fran, the club and the FA expected

Has the pivot to, "Only (kink shaming) SWERFs and TERFs have a problem with this" happened yet?

I wonder how the parents of young women who are still attending school feel about the safeguarding measures in the relevant football teams.

That's gross but it's not the point.

He could be the nicest man in the world but he is still a MAN.

And men should never play on a women's team. Stick to biological sex and you can't go far wrong

Ah the good old FA. The same FA that bans mixed sex football for over 15s.

Unless of course you're a man who says they are a woman.

I am waiting too.

That's true, but I think these stories do a useful job of highlighting the real motivation of these men. In practice, the nicest men in the world are not claiming to be women and joining women's football teams.

“On her prostitution profile she said she was happy to see male and female clients and enjoyed a variety of sexual fetishes including lactation, role play and foot worship”

I read the article, so many groupings of paraphilia. And yet, some people seem keen to overlook the safeguarding issues that this is a male sharing single sex spaces with minors. With teenagers. With a background of sexual fetish of emulating teenaged girls for sex.

This really isn’t just about this player being male on a female team. This is also a safeguarding issue and both issues are important to be addressed.

I agree it's not the point - it is however yet another demonstration of a man using the access granted by lovely kind understanding of a self declaration - who is patently exploiting it for a sexual experience using females. In this case, young girls.

These cases aren't the rare bloody exception, they are everywhere. They're the norm.

@SunnieShine I agree that his perversions are not the main point in this as no male should be playing in a female team, however the fact that the FA has greenlit this male person with his sexual history to not only play against adolescent girls but have granted him access to their changing facilities highlights the FAs compleat lack of regard for safeguarding of women and girls.
I also think that it helps the be kind brigade who know a "nice" trans person to think about the not "nice" ones

The fact he has been an online prostitute doesn’t come into it (would a female former prostitute who dressed up as a schoolgirl be barred from playing in a woman’s football team?)
The fact someone’s knee was broken might not be that unusual - I’m not sure what statistics are like for football injuries but even I know knee injuries are common.

The fact is that this is a male person who has gone through male puberty - the team is now ‘mixed sex’ and that’s not fair on opposing single sex teams even if their own team think it’s all fine and hunky dory (do we know of any open dissenters or have they just left the team quietly?)

Admittedly the sex work and injury paint a more rich picture of the individual but no need to get sidetracked from the key issue here.

I admit I am finding it disturbing how many cases of males in women's sport come with this follow up story - whether it be sexualised tattoos or sexualised other activities. It seems to be almost every other example that makes the headlines.

Is it representative? I don't know. Should we be asking whether this should be studying in an academic way to establish if indeed it is?

Certainly I think we may have to start saying 'at what point does it get to the stage where we are allowed to ask the question "is this a pattern?"' And further to that, if this is a pattern, should we be concerned about this and are their ramifications from it.

It's certainly not a one off. That's troubling.

the fact that they are allowing a male with a schoolgirl fetish to change with underage girls is very relevant, it wouldn’t really change things if he were giving the sex away vs selling it.

I would argue the following, that your comparison is off on this.

I'd use this comparison instead:

If it was common for women/girls who are in football teams to have a history of prostitution I'd have a feeling we'd be asking some questions about why and what the implications were.

I'll instead ask 'are we seeing a pattern of males who decide to take part in women's sport which is overly sexualised which is also is very untypical for women'. (Remembering they are claiming to be women). I'd then question if it was typical male behaviour or if it was unrepresentative of males as well. And then I'd be asking why they want to do this type of activity with women.

Because THAT is relevant. Its about the problem.

So a man without a school girl fetish would be OK?

This is where ignoring biological sex gets you. On the back foot and having to justify your case.

"Admittedly the sex work and injury paint a more rich picture of the individual but no need to get sidetracked from the key issue here".

Hmm. Recent history exposes a major issue of men with an interest in porn, prostitution, indecent exposure, paedophilia & fetish making inroads into organisations that work with children and young women. See numerous charities & organisations for girls in particular.
It's the "don't look at this" attitude that is hindering people from making good safeguarding decisions that protect children and young people.

“The fact he has been an online prostitute doesn’t come into it (would a female former prostitute who dressed up as a schoolgirl be barred from playing in a woman’s football team?)”

There is a difference between a male dressing as a schoolgirl for a fetish and a female prostitute dressing as a schoolgirl to service a client’s fetish. Can you honestly not tell the difference?

😂😂😂

I'm happy to justify my case, with both those things. A man with a school girl fetish, should be nowhere near young girls. And a man should be nowhere near women's sport. Both for different reasons. But both are male reasons.

No. I don’t believe that is what is meant.

The issue is that there were some easy to find examples that would have been expected red flags for safeguarding in any case that were being ignored.

Of course no one is missing the point that there should be no males in female sports categories or in single sex spaces. However, if a club chooses to prioritise gender over sex when sex matters, they need to then do safeguarding checks which they have failed to do. This case highlights another reason why no male person should be allowed access to single sex spaces in the clubhouse with minors.

This case highlights another reason why no male person should be allowed access to single sex spaces in the clubhouse with minors.

I am in a number of sports clubs and associations. Adults are not allowed in changing rooms with minors. Even when it's our changing room, if there's an overflow because of visitors (school party, visiting clubs), the adults have to decant so that the visitors (and their chaperones) have the room. Yes - it can mean we have to go home without showering/changing. But those are the safeguarding rules.

There's two issues here which are BOTH valid reasons why men who say they are women should not be participating in women's sport. It's not an either/or or a one is more legitimate than the other thing.