Trans footballer who broke a woman's knee quits team and threatens lawsuit over female players refusing to play against them

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So as the title says a biological male footballer who was allowed by the fa to play on a woman's team with the inevitable consequences for a female player has thrown his tous out of the pram because the women's teams refuse to play against him and is threatening to sue the other clubs so he can play against 16 and 17 year old girls and women

Transgender woman footballer who broke knee of a player quits team https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12771191/Transgender-woman-footballer-left-opponents-terrified-broke-knee-player-blocking-shot-quits-team-threatens-sue-discrimination-rivals-refused-compete-against-her.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

And now we are where we are

Slow handclap

But you didn't like playing against her.
So losing or not, rank hypocricy.

So, you got defensive because why? You acknowledge that it is unsafe. You surely know that it is also dangerous for female players? Why did you get defensive when a male player absolutely should not be playing and should absolutely not be using female single sex changing rooms?

Just because you felt worn down? Powerless? or because that person became a mate? Can you tell us why?

This is so interesting. It doesn’t sound like “she” treated “her” teammates well at all, making you uncomfortable during practice and while changing. And yet you all felt defensive and protective of “her.”

I’m not at all having a go at you, I’m just really curious about the dynamics and would like to hear you say more about it. This person was blatantly inconsiderate and selfish, certainly towards the other teams and even to his own teammates. And he was undermining the whole sport that you were all there to participate in! It seems so strange to me that you’d feel give a crap about someone like that, but it seems you’re far from the only one

Sorry, you answered my post already.

However, can you tell us now what you considered abusive? And did that player leave the team, or did women and girls just quietly leave and never discussed the harm they suffered because of this male person's inclusion?

The sorority case was lost as the sorority had in it policies something about allowing trans women in the sorority, and the court refused to define what a woman is.

we did have a transgender female in our team.

Presumably this is actually about a transgender male, not a transgender female?

I would like to know how he broke the woman's knee.
You don't just do that because someone "blocked" the shot.
There has to have been some physical contact for that to have happened.

I would also like them to sue the other teams.
All the other teams have to say is that they would play if they could get a team together. But they are unable to do so.

I also think that the social media should be banned from using the photos that are obviously using filters.

Given that in a recent survey, people didn't know the difference its hard to say.

@chutneysauce putting all other things to one side. That sounds horrendous for you and for the other women in the team.

I can understand standing up for your team mate, although it sounds a bit Stockholm syndrome-y. Abuse isn't acceptable but you and your opponents should never have been put in that position. Neither should the tw. It's outrageous that it's still going on.

This is what I'm thinking

A broken knee is serious business

Potentially career ending

I live for my sport and if this happened to me because a bloke insisted on playing me I'd be incandescent with grief and rage

I played girls' hockey at my mixed school, in sex-segregated Games lessons. The boys simultaneously had their Games lessons on the other pitch, rugby and football. One day, towards the end of the spring in Year 11, there were very few people around for some reason (perhaps a trip that not everyone was involved in?) and the PE teachers decided to put the boys and girls lessons together.

In their wisdom, they decided to have us play mixed hockey. Never mind that the girls had been playing for five years and the boys had never had a hockey lesson, so were unlikely to know the rules, they simply equipped everyone with hockey sticks and let us have at it.

I think they mixed the teams, but it was still a disaster. The boys were faster, taller, stronger and tackled far more aggressively than the girls. One boy actually broke a hockey stick while tackling. The game didn't last all that long ( I think the PE teachers at least had the sense to blow the whistle early) but I remember it being pretty terrifying and I am still amazed that no one was injured.

I have never, ever doubted the physical differences between the average man and the average woman.

Well, I guess thats it, hes taking his balls and going home

@FrippEnos I read, in The Times I think, that he kicked the ball so hard that it broke her knee when it hit. I'd imagine a male can kick a whole lot harder than a female.

The same happened to me for one disastrous PE lesson in an emergency. The boys did the same: aggressive, too hard, too fast, most of the girls just withdrew from the pitch before they got hurt.

See also the research on playgrounds and access for girls: that boys invariably dominate the space, footballs are being whacked around and anyone in the vicinity can move or get hit, their choice, plus harassment, and playgrounds focused around the preferences and activities of boys not girls. So they are mostly not used by girls.

Yes, obviously, not all boys, and some boys would like other provision too, but right now it's about the needs and equality of girls as a sex class. Diversity of provision for the already very well served and prioritised sex class of boys is a nice to have after that. Alongside looking at the diversity of provision for girls once they have some.

For anyone who hasn't seen it before - this website relates to Frood's point about playgrounds/outdoor spaces -

www.makespaceforgirls.co.uk/

He kicked the ball so hard that when it hit her knee it broke it. He is quite literally that strong

When my DC were at primary football was restricted to 2 lunch times per week on the playground , two days a week were no ball games at all on the playground. It work really well and there was good provision of other stuff to encourage them to be active without playing football. The football obsessives moaned a bit but I think it did make them aware of how much it dominated the space.

If in being honest, we did ended up liking this player as a person if we didn't agree with what was happening on the pitch. This player was a nice person so that's why we stood up for them when it came to name calling and abuse but if we heard calls of it being unfair etc, then no we didn't stand up for them because we knew it wasn't fair. And it's not been fair when we've come up against a team with one but so far it's always been allowed.

@Helleofabore abuse - name calling/threats/ general taking the piss.

The player played for a few years and then left, not sure if to another team. This was years ago so maybe teams will take complaints more seriously now.

Whereas these brave women gave up the chance at a World Championship because they acknowledged that having a male on their team was unfair on the other teams -

www.independent.co.uk/sport/england-womans-fishing-team-transgender-row-b2418111.html

@Brefugee sorry can you clarify what you mean in your posts to me? I saw others asking people to give their experiences of playing in a team with transgender people so I gave mine and was honest about the feeling in the team.
Whether hypocritical

.. hypocritical or not wasnt the point in question and I've not really denied that

@chutneysauce I think your posts are really interesting, thank you.

Most people are nice. And you're going to feel loyalty to someone on your team. Why would you object when it's in the rules? All this is normal. You can see it positively, or analyse it as a deliberate use of your female socialisation to disadvantage women as a group.

A transwoman (she was then, although I understand they now identify as nonbinary) competed in a women's team in 'my' sport a few years back, without publicity. In itself it's a relatively high profile event, and the team made a training montage video. The male competitor is hidden in every shot. The team protected her from abuse and outing. I hope men would do the same tbh. If only the DEI training focused on that.