Miriam Margoyles on pronouns

[ArthurbellaScott]

'Whatever they want me to say, I'll say it'

Noting Boy George is on the seat with her. A man convicted for false imprisonment and torture.

I can't stand the woman. She just rants and raves and jumps on the latest bandwagon thats got official Labour Party approval, rather than actually thinking for herself.

On anything.

I remember watching her on a programme about going to stay with some very religious Christians in the US - they came across as a very polite couple who were happy to talk about their beliefs. Her first words to them as they opened their door and welcomed her was “I’ve just farted on your doorstep”. Hilarious.

I can’t stand her.

Watching her graham Norton wanking interview made me want to vom

I do feel I owe you all a huge apology for even mentioning the soldier wank in the first place.

Appreciate it...quivering in a corner

She must have other humorous anecdotes that don't involve bodily functions, surely?

Bodily functions seem to be where it’s at with dear old Miriam. I listened to an episode of Out To Lunch, Jay Rayner’s podcast, and she was open about farting during the meal. Who the fuck does that?

I'm still unsure.

I don't want to be rude or hurtful but it's the slippery slope. If you called me she and her, you believe I'm a woman so you'll have no problem with me using the ladies toilets then? How do you walk that back?

Lol at the irony.

If you require me to use wrong sex pronouns to feel valued, sorry ain't happening.

I've just seen someone using /he/him/cis. Is this the next step?

Edited to lower chances of being reported.

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Would you be willing to be kind (if privately thinking it a bit silly) if you had a medical appointment with this 'doctor'? Because, after all, the argument is NOT that TW are men pretending to be women, it's that men ARE women, and any differentiation is phobic.

I'm not a Dr but would like you to address as me as Dr Wrong Swanson because that is what would make me feel comfortable. Thank you for being so nice and civilised

I'm not a Dr but would like you to address as me as Dr Wrong Swanson because that is what would make me feel comfortable. Thank you for being so nice and civilised

@Maddy70
"The principle is the same"
So I (with no doctorate or MD qualification) can identify as as"Dr" and you'd refer to me as such?

Me too. How did she know he was 'struggling to finish'? What does that even look like?

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I'd set a lot more store by people claiming it was polite, civilised and kind to use pronouns, if we didn't all know that if you don't, you get abused, ostracised, disciplined, or arrested.

I agree. I've talked a little with my adult offspring about this, who live in Brighton and tend towards the "be kind" option. The furthest I will go, is to use the person's name if referring to that person in the third person. It's a little clumsy sometimes but can usually be managed. I will not refer to a born male as 'she' or 'her'.
I also spend time with an older man who had a stroke, which results in frequent incorrect words emanating from his mouth unintentionally. Would these zealots be kind to a stroke victim, one wonders. 🤔

That's well explained.

I am already being (extremely) polite by going to the effort of using a name instead of an unwanted pronoun. I require reciprocal respect and politeness of not demanding that this is not good enough and I must lie on command. If that isn't happening then the deal's off and I'll use my own choice of language.

I wonder if Miriam would shag a trans woman who said they were a lesbian too. Just to be polite...? Hmmm me thinks not.

She was the voice of Meep in tonight's Doctor Who, which was basically one long advert for trans ideology. So now we know why she was wanging on in favour of pronouns - money.

MM and the word polite in the same sentence is not something you see often...

That episode was so much worse than I thought it would be.

When Rose asked Meep about pronouns, Jesus wept...

Oh that's a shame, I was looking forward to it.

Got to say I watched some of the old Tennant DrWhos recently and they haven't aged well. All those pretty young blonde women. Dr Who writers seem to suffer from the same limited imagination as Joss Wheedon - can imagine a feisty kick ass woman but can't imagine her not being young, pretty, blonde and ultimately in the service of a man. (Donna was great but they'd never have cast CT if that one off special hadn't done so well, and in that they had originally made her character just dim).