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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Eddie Izzard - "these arguments will drift away".

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HootyMcBooby76 · 26/10/2023 09:44

Eddie Izzard criticises discord sown between trans and women's rights: 'They shouldn't be fought against each other' | Watch (msn.com)

Another interview with Izzard saying these "arguments will drift away", it's "live and let live", its a right wing ideology etc.

Get fucked Eddie.
Women's rights will not just "drift away" you moron.

It's NOTHING to to with homophobia, the arguments aren't even comparable.
You just want women to shut up and sweep themselves out of the room and close the door after themselves, don't you?

Well, it's not happening you twat.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/other/eddie-izzard-criticises-discord-sown-between-trans-and-women-s-rights-they-shouldn-t-be-fought-against-each-other/vi-AA1iS28L?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=36e51da08cf3448184f125ab164f52ac&ei=9

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SidewaysOtter · 28/10/2023 15:34

0rch · 28/10/2023 15:29

I don't agree with anyone making comments about other people's appearance. The media or the pp. it's just unnecessary and unkind

And crowing about chasing two teenage girls out of a public loo - as Izzard did - was that necessary or kind?

Why should someone who behaves badly be lauded rather than - to use the modern parlance - called out? And why should we all have to clap along and be part of the enforced validation by saying “You look great” if we don’t think that at all? Why shouldn’t we be able to say that we find “woman face” (or dress) offensive?

turbonerd · 28/10/2023 15:36

Eddie seems to think his appearance turns him into the other sex. But weirdly enough, not into a woman of 60 odd years, but into a girl.

So I think it is fair to comment on his appearance, words, actions - the lot really.

He doesn’t just want to be free to dress how he likes. That would have been fine. He wants, no - demands, that the audience and public st large believes his lies about girl and boy modes.
It really is bad.

Froodwithatowel · 28/10/2023 15:38

Trans rights are human....

oh ffs. Another parroted burble.

The 'right' being sought is for men to do and go where they want and not have to be restricted in expressing themselves regardless of women's consent, equality, freedom, privacy, dignity or safety.

You have got to be a highly unpleasant and very limited person to believe that male supremacism can or should be framed as a 'human right'. I used to think this silly individual was intelligent.

MargotBamborough · 28/10/2023 15:41

0rch · 28/10/2023 15:29

I don't agree with anyone making comments about other people's appearance. The media or the pp. it's just unnecessary and unkind

Well no, neither do I really.

But I think what a lot of people are reacting to is the fact that if a woman of Eddie's age and general attractiveness went out dressed like that she would be ridiculed for looking like a dog's dinner, whereas because Eddie is a man people are pretending he looks great. He doesn't.

It reminds me a bit of the kind of people who act like a man is the dad of the century if he looks after his own kids at the weekend or manages to put a nappy on the right way round. As soon as a man does something that is a "woman thing", no matter how badly, he becomes better than actual women.

Froodwithatowel · 28/10/2023 15:42

And women will line up to stroke the man's ego by applauding.

Mytattooisbiggerthanyours · 28/10/2023 15:47

Is anyone going to buy his gin?

https://www.edinburghgin.com/eddie-izzard

Eddie Izzard - "these arguments will drift away".
Saucery · 28/10/2023 16:34

I’m not even going to buy Edinburgh Gin any more. Although I prefer small distilleries anyway.
My parents have a mirror in that style, kept for its kitsch qualities. Flowers, line drawn woman gazing into middle distance……it’s from the 1960s, when stepping out of gender roles was still frowned upon. Women Know Your Place - surrounded by a herbaceous border, faraway look on your face with your chin raised because you don’t want a wattle spoiling the view for men DO YOU.

PorcelinaV · 28/10/2023 16:40

@Froodwithatowel

You have got to be a highly unpleasant and very limited person to believe that male supremacism can or should be framed as a 'human right'. I used to think this silly individual was intelligent.

I think the use of "human rights" here is wrong; it becomes a way to evade the democratic process, and is actually an oppressive tactic to use. It's kind of like appealing to, "my god sent this command and you all have to follow it", "you can't question the commands of god can you?".

But if I had to guess, many of the people that speak this way are probably completely sincere that they think it's just another step in getting "equality" for a minority.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 28/10/2023 16:43

MargotBamborough · 28/10/2023 15:41

Well no, neither do I really.

But I think what a lot of people are reacting to is the fact that if a woman of Eddie's age and general attractiveness went out dressed like that she would be ridiculed for looking like a dog's dinner, whereas because Eddie is a man people are pretending he looks great. He doesn't.

It reminds me a bit of the kind of people who act like a man is the dad of the century if he looks after his own kids at the weekend or manages to put a nappy on the right way round. As soon as a man does something that is a "woman thing", no matter how badly, he becomes better than actual women.

Indeed. Compare the media coverage of Izzard wearing a dress, to the media coverage of Queen Letizia of Spain wearing the same dress.

It looked much better on Queen Letizia, but you'd never have known that from the headlines.

Images taken from this twitter user: WestHamMatters

Eddie Izzard - "these arguments will drift away".
Eddie Izzard - "these arguments will drift away".
ArthurbellaScott · 28/10/2023 16:45

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 28/10/2023 16:43

Indeed. Compare the media coverage of Izzard wearing a dress, to the media coverage of Queen Letizia of Spain wearing the same dress.

It looked much better on Queen Letizia, but you'd never have known that from the headlines.

Images taken from this twitter user: WestHamMatters

Holy fuck. If ever anything proved that people are treated differently according to sex, and that gender is bollocks, it's that.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 28/10/2023 16:51

To put the capstone on it, Queen Letizia was 49 that summer. Apparently 49 is too old to wear that dress?

Izzard was 60 at the time he was pronounced to be giving off "perfect summer vibes" in the same dress.

WickedSerious · 28/10/2023 16:58

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 28/10/2023 16:51

To put the capstone on it, Queen Letizia was 49 that summer. Apparently 49 is too old to wear that dress?

Izzard was 60 at the time he was pronounced to be giving off "perfect summer vibes" in the same dress.

I got sausage vibes.

JanesLittleGirl · 28/10/2023 17:02

WickedSerious · 28/10/2023 16:58

I got sausage vibes.

I got sack of onions but I wouldn't argue with sausage.

Saucery · 28/10/2023 18:01

I don’t care what he wears, or how he looks in it. As long as he stays out of spaces for women and girls.

Tallisker · 28/10/2023 18:40

Ha ha ha he was wearing that dress at Malaga airport 🤣🤣🤣 oh my sides, my ribs 🤣🤣🤣

Boiledbeetle · 28/10/2023 18:59

Tallisker · 28/10/2023 18:40

Ha ha ha he was wearing that dress at Malaga airport 🤣🤣🤣 oh my sides, my ribs 🤣🤣🤣

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/10/2023 19:54

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/10/2023 20:04

Such a nasty tone to this.

You're not going to shame women into going along with the ludicrous gaslighting. He doesn't give one single fuck about us. We are not going to pretend he's giving off "perfect summer vibes" in a dress that's apparently too young for an attractive 49 year old woman Confused stupid, vain and deluded man.

IcakethereforeIam · 28/10/2023 20:24

Perfect Malaga vibes at least Grin

DickJagger · 28/10/2023 20:31

When this falls away from popularity, all Eddie has to do is pretend he was larking about. He was performing a social experiment. He will put 'man' back on, and carry on.

It isn't a joke Eddie. It never was.

SidewaysOtter · 28/10/2023 20:32

DickJagger · 28/10/2023 20:31

When this falls away from popularity, all Eddie has to do is pretend he was larking about. He was performing a social experiment. He will put 'man' back on, and carry on.

It isn't a joke Eddie. It never was.

The excuses for something that someone gets pulled up on are usually "It was just banter" or "I was raising awareness/starting a conversation".

Wonder which one it will be.

DickJagger · 28/10/2023 20:32

I had huge respect for him when he made that "they're just my clothes" comment. It really encapsulated how I felt about 'gender' bullshit. I still really hope he's just winding us all up.

DickJagger · 28/10/2023 20:34

The excuses for something that someone gets pulled up on are usually "It was just banter" or "I was raising awareness/starting a conversation"

Wonder which one it will be

Absolutely spot on. It is just so very easy for them.

WickedSerious · 28/10/2023 21:43

Tallisker · 28/10/2023 18:40

Ha ha ha he was wearing that dress at Malaga airport 🤣🤣🤣 oh my sides, my ribs 🤣🤣🤣

You couldn't write this shit could you?

SidewaysOtter · 28/10/2023 22:02

What’s the Malaga airport reference? That’s gone right over my poor old head!