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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian nana goes viral again

140 replies

OhBeAFineGuyKissMe · 24/10/2023 09:49

https://x.com/bigbillmoon/status/1716537824994808300?s=61&t=g1YHbG7L5rNz7O2ap7ad2g

most police officers manage to not go viral at any point, or have any social media coverage. Yet this one has managed it twice in a few months! Not a good look.

Totally unrelated question - what effects does testosterone have on a female body?

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Dumbo12 · 25/10/2023 20:53

The idea of policing by "fuck around and find out" is most disturbing, when we live in a country which is supposed to have policing by consent.

WeighDownOnMeStayTillMorning · 25/10/2023 20:56

Yeah @Dumbo12 I'm baffled that comment went over most peoples heads. It's a terrible thought and justifying it is shocking.

PurpleBugz · 25/10/2023 20:57

Saw this and please to see a thread on it. Some of these comments are hilarious.

Yes she should be publicly shamed like this. If the public were not outraged she would face no consequences. That's if she even faces them now.

Thank god she doesn't have a gun.

Mole is awesome.

SpiderMaam · 25/10/2023 21:09

If her employer had instigated an appropriate discipline process the public wouldn’t need to bang on about her all over social media.

The public shaming is for West Yorkshire Police the institution, PC Nanna could dye her hair brown and fade into desk-job obscurity if she wanted to.
That she’s been caught on camera twice now exerting (what appears to be excessive force) against teenagers is an indication of WYP’s incompetence.

IcakethereforeIam · 25/10/2023 21:20

A name was mentioned upthread but I actually had no idea, or any desire to find out, what her real name is. PC L Nan is sufficient.

exwhyzed · 25/10/2023 21:49

The woman is a menace but beyond her lack of insight into her role as a police officer, any blame is entirely at the feet of her superiors who have completely failed to properly supervise her and take control of a situation where one of their colleagues/subordinates has clearly lost control.

Not one single police personnel there even seemed to look at her, let alone try and calm her down. She was pepper spraying people at random FGS!

Are they scared of challenging her too?

Maaate · 25/10/2023 21:52

Imagine if other police officers had been "publically shamed" for their inappropriate actions instead of it being hushed up and excused?

BreadInCaptivity · 25/10/2023 22:04

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 19:50

She's not being shamed, she's (rightly) being held to account.

This is public shaming, and the punishment is too severe for the crime.

Perhaps the best response to this is from the mouth of PC in question herself having called in 5 (?) other officers to arrest an autistic child mid meltdown in her own home for comparing her to her (actual) lesbian nan.

"I don't care".

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 22:19

@NotTerfNorCis how would you feel if you were suddenly and without warning pepper sprayed in the face for no reason - making your eyes feel on fire for up to an hour?

I would take that any time over being a public target with all that entails. I don't think people realise the heavy cost this kind of social shaming involves. She's not going to be able to 'fade away'. She's almost certainly receiving threats now. If she loses this job she'll find it impossible to find another. It's a cruel thing to happen and although some people might deserve it, I don't think she does.

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

PaterPower · 25/10/2023 22:36

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

Hmm.. serving police officer abuses their power very publicly twice (just the times she’s been filmed, I’d be surprised if these were the only occasions) including the bullying and unjustified / unlawful arrest (with homophobic undertones) of an autistic teenager. And you don’t think that deserves a thread?

What surprises you about it being on FWR? Is it not ‘feminist’ to criticise the police when they do things like this? Is she immune from criticism by feminists because she’s a woman?

She’s a police officer. Her sex should have no bearing on her competence.

Maaate · 25/10/2023 22:39

Yes, you're right. Police officers acting aggressively and inappropriately should just be kept on the down low because we can trust the police force to take the appropriate actions.

i mean, it's not as if there is a long list of concerning behaviours by serving police officers that get swept under the carpet.

DerekFaker · 25/10/2023 22:41

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

We talk about police abuses of power a lot on this board. And this is the second time this particular officer has lost control. Her sex is irrelevant.

BreadInCaptivity · 25/10/2023 22:50

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 22:19

@NotTerfNorCis how would you feel if you were suddenly and without warning pepper sprayed in the face for no reason - making your eyes feel on fire for up to an hour?

I would take that any time over being a public target with all that entails. I don't think people realise the heavy cost this kind of social shaming involves. She's not going to be able to 'fade away'. She's almost certainly receiving threats now. If she loses this job she'll find it impossible to find another. It's a cruel thing to happen and although some people might deserve it, I don't think she does.

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

Being a woman isn't a free pass to behave without impunity or censure on this forum or any other.

Pixiedust1234 · 25/10/2023 22:54

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?
What?? You think her sex means she's above criticism when she's acting out of control?

exwhyzed · 25/10/2023 23:01

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 22:19

@NotTerfNorCis how would you feel if you were suddenly and without warning pepper sprayed in the face for no reason - making your eyes feel on fire for up to an hour?

I would take that any time over being a public target with all that entails. I don't think people realise the heavy cost this kind of social shaming involves. She's not going to be able to 'fade away'. She's almost certainly receiving threats now. If she loses this job she'll find it impossible to find another. It's a cruel thing to happen and although some people might deserve it, I don't think she does.

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

the police officer's sex is irrelevant.

The specific police force she works for and their ongoing support of her in the face of what subsequently appears to be an unlawful reaction to a perceived hate crime only a matter of weeks ago is what makes the more recent events relevant to the feminist board.

When women and girls are being dragged from their homes and are being arrested in the streets for calling a man a man or speculating that a butch presenting woman looks like another lesbian they know, or for being rude about someone who is trying to undermine our hard won rights, or for taking a photo of a sticker that supports woman's rights, then, you betcha we are interested in the conduct of those same police officers who have that power over us.

no matter their shape, colour, size or genitalia.

BreadInCaptivity · 25/10/2023 23:06

I don't think people realise the heavy cost this kind of social shaming involves. She's not going to be able to 'fade away'. She's almost certainly receiving threats now. If she loses this job she'll find it impossible to find another. It's a cruel thing to happen and although some people might deserve it

I think what she deserved after the first filmed episode was support from her superiors to understand why her behaviour was inappropriate.

That's clearly not happened or been ineffective.

I genuinely hope she's not receiving personal threats and if she is I hope she is being supported.

However, we all need to take accountability for our own behaviour.

We now have two filmed incidents of this person behaving in a manner that was excessive (to say the least).

If she loses her job that's a direct result of her inability to act professionally as a member of the police force.

You don't seem to have taken on board the fact she was using a weapon (which pepper spray is) against people offering no threat to her or her colleagues.

That's cruel. Her actions were cruel - especially to a child in the LN video.

I feel your compassion towards a person who shows no compassion for others - especially vulnerable children is sorely misplaced.

rational837 · 25/10/2023 23:12

She's running around like a lunatic, shouting and pointing something at people (tazer?) She then has a strop and storms off! That's what I saw.

Boiledbeetle · 26/10/2023 08:20

rational837 · 25/10/2023 23:12

She's running around like a lunatic, shouting and pointing something at people (tazer?) She then has a strop and storms off! That's what I saw.

The thing she was pointing, and spraying, at people wasnt a taser though, it was pepper spray.

PaterPower · 26/10/2023 09:14

I believe the police used to have to write a report every time they just drew their baton, justifying why they felt the need to.

Even if that’s no longer true (I don’t know) I’d hope that actually deploying a chemical irritant as a weapon would still require some sort of write up.

And I’d just love to see the work of fiction she came up with to back up her actions in Third Avenue. I mean, how does she explain emptying a whole canister of PAVA when (it appears) none of her colleagues felt the same threat?

I’m imagining something along the lines of “there were Zulus, Sah, thaaarsands of ‘em”

suggestionsplease1 · 26/10/2023 09:25

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 22:19

@NotTerfNorCis how would you feel if you were suddenly and without warning pepper sprayed in the face for no reason - making your eyes feel on fire for up to an hour?

I would take that any time over being a public target with all that entails. I don't think people realise the heavy cost this kind of social shaming involves. She's not going to be able to 'fade away'. She's almost certainly receiving threats now. If she loses this job she'll find it impossible to find another. It's a cruel thing to happen and although some people might deserve it, I don't think she does.

Also - I can't understand why she's been attacked from a feminist board. What's the reasoning?

This.

It's the direction of travel on this board however.

There are millions of potential topics that should animate women and generate posts, but it is the 'lesbian nana' who is at the top of the FWR boards and is considered the most pressing consideration of the moment for many posters here.

Doesn't that tell you all you need to know about the core ethos of FWR.

AutumnCrow · 26/10/2023 09:32

It went to the top of the board when you posted on the thread, @suggestionsplease1.

That's how this site works.

If you post on another thread then that will go to the top of the board.

Women are perfectly entitled to discuss the police, given what they have put with from them over the years and to discuss whether that's getting worse or not. Women on this board have often warned that police are acting in a way that discriminates against women and girls with autism. In this case, there is film footage, and a further worrying filmed incident.

When I hit post, this thread will be at the top of the board again.

Winnading · 26/10/2023 09:49

NotTerfNorCis · 25/10/2023 19:50

She's not being shamed, she's (rightly) being held to account.

This is public shaming, and the punishment is too severe for the crime.

She is a public servant, if she never wants to be filmed doing her job (badly) then dont become a public servant.

What punishment? Having her antics as a serving officer put up on the interwebs? Theres a cure for that, dont do anything in public that could lead to it blowing up on you.

She needs sacking, that still wouldnt be punishment, but at least the general population of Leeds would be a bit safer.

Winnading · 26/10/2023 09:56

suggestionsplease1 · 26/10/2023 09:25

This.

It's the direction of travel on this board however.

There are millions of potential topics that should animate women and generate posts, but it is the 'lesbian nana' who is at the top of the FWR boards and is considered the most pressing consideration of the moment for many posters here.

Doesn't that tell you all you need to know about the core ethos of FWR.

It's still as yet a free country, no one makes you come to a board you appear to dislike intensely and post.

As for what should animate us, did you become the board police, here to approve of our choices in what to discuss?
If you think there is something better we should be animated about, you are welcome to start a thread on the subject.

TWETMIRF · 26/10/2023 10:01

It would be very unfeminist of us to say that as she's just a lowly woman, she is hampered by her ladybrain and therefore can't help her actions. Thinking is too hard for such creatures and should be left to the men...

quantumbutterfly · 26/10/2023 10:15

qwertyuiopasdfgh · 24/10/2023 13:43

sorry this had me laughing 😂

Me too, had me thinking of the beautician in the fast show.