NHS nurse on my facebook just changed her profile picture to this

[welcometothepartyyy]

Inappropriate, much?

The poster linking Pink News are a reliable news source is hilarious 😂

Just linking this here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7742703/Women-https://x.com/DearRebelAda/status/1676611864711626753?s=20-patients-complain-having-biological-male-bed-risk-kicked-out.html

Yes.

So if it said "socialist" "vegan" or "black person" you'd say that?

What if she was describing you?

You mean if a woman said they would rather share a ward with another female with different political leanings than with a man when they where very vulnerable?

It's against NHS Social Media policy

I would rather share a hospital room with a transman than a (female) transphobe. (I don't consider being GC to be trabsphobic but some women genuinely are) but that's a matter of preference, not an expression of how much I would worry about my personal safety in that context.

But the point is that "not wanting to be vulnerable/semiconscious with this person sharing my bedroom" is not the same thing as expressing hatred of that person or the group/category the person belongs to.

It is absolutely known and provable that women are more vulnerable and more likely to be assaulted in a mixed sex environment than in a single sex environment. That does not mean that every woman in a mixed sex environment gets attacked or that every male is an attacker, but it's safe to be in a single sex environment.

Sex and gender are not the same thing. A room containing a woman and a transwoman is a mixed sex environment.

I agree with the OP that this is very unprofessional.

It's fine for nurses and doctors and others within the NHS to post political opinions on social media - to say, I think the NHS is underfunded, or I support the doctors' strike or whatever. It's not fine to make this kind of personalised comment because it's your job as a health professional to treat all patients equally regardless of their political opinions, their ethnicity, their sex, their gender identity, whatever.

I imagine different NHS trusts have different NHS guidelines, but it wouldn't surprise me if the post was in breach of those guidelines.

I would find it intimidating, OP. I would be unsafe in hospital if staff supported male intruders and had a hostile attitude to me for objecting. Very unprofessional.

You do know that nurses have no say on who is admitted where as a patient?

You really want men totally barred from women's wards? That's going to make staffing a bit awkward, to say nothing of visiting times.

Funnily enough, there weren’t visitors on my ward at 3am when staffing ( by disclosure checked staff) was absolutely minimal and I and other patients were asleep.

This.

Why not?

Trans activists have absolutely no problem getting women fired for saying that humans can't change sex.

She won't get fired anyway, but this sort of thing is really inappropriate and we need to start taking a stand against it.

I wouldn't feel safe in a ward staffed by someone like that because she's the type of person who would lie to the police and say I couldn't possibly have been raped on the ward because there were no males present.

I refer you to 3.1 principles section of the policy for a start :https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/social-media-policy.pdf

No. She has made a statement as a nurse, from a nurse’s viewpoint. So it is a professional issue 🤦🏼‍♀️

The issue here is nothing to do with her political views-of course she is entitled to disagree with Tory policy. Like someone said a lot of NHS workers as people feel the same. The difference is her comment around giving care on her ward. You just cannot as a nurse state publicly that you’d rather treat one patient over another because of their political beliefs. Well clearly you can do that but not without breaching policy and standards of your profession and service provider and bringing the NHS & Royal College of Nursing into disrepute.

Oh and the policy does extend to outside of work as long as she is speaking publicly from a nursing perspective -like she was.

Yes that's what I mean. I think it should acceptable for either of those statements to be made by a healthcare professional on social media without their regulator or employer taking the slightest notice. It's clearly making a political point. It's not personal or bullying.

You might want to refer to them yourself, given some of your delightful posts.

Don’t post if you know fuck all about what you are spouting from your mouth

Don’t be a dick. It’s you not comprehending here. You are clearly not a professional person and if you are supposed to be you shouldn’t!

I suppose you might argue that this nurse might not act professionally towards those patients who she found out were Conservative. But these same arguments are being used to sanction GC healthcare workers.

There is the case of Rachel Mead (Social Worker) who has been severely sanctioned for stating political on SM.

Amy Hamm (Nurse) in Canada also currently finds herself in this situation.

I imagine that most of us on here wholeheartedly support these women.

You just cannot as a nurse state publicly that you’d rather treat one patient over another because of their political beliefs.

That's not what she said though is it.

The nurse just needed to clarify the image with a brief line like "this is from my viewpoint when a patient, obvs!"

She is displaying deliberate prejudice and is being hostile to a particular group.

Now I don't necessarily disagree that there is a problem with Tory policy, but to say something like this is unprofessional because it's an attack on people not policy. That's problematic.

That means it opens the question up about whether she would give the highest standard of care to someone she knew to be a Tory or she even suspected of voting Tory.

This is trying to intimidate and silence people with different views however you cut it. And it raises questions about her professionalism if she is saying things like that.

Women who want single sex wards, want protection and understanding of their rights and dignity. That doesn't mean they want trans people to have substandard care or treatment. It just means they recognise that it's producing a conflict of interest and problems which need to be resolved in a professional manner.

This is a facet I've found interesting to observe - the pre-judging of women and the assumption that they 'hate' before they've even said a word to clarify how and why they think there is an issue or problem. Pre-judging is prejudice.

There's a lot of trans activists who are exceptionally prejudiced. But they don't think they can be because they are left wing and 'left wing people don't discriminate' (newsflash: they do).

Party political nonsense bores me, and a lot of the sentiment seems to come from a time of when these people weren't even born.

But what needs to be realised is that the trans legislation being proposed by the Tory government is in response to the opinion of the majority of the country.

Trans activism seems to prosper in echo chambers and segregation. As soon as someone steps out of line they are excommunicated. Many activists were very happy with the Tories when they were going with the trans lobbyists wishes.

I wonder if the nurse will post similar about Labour, once Labour realise that trans policies are vote losers?