Eternal reunion collapses after disagreements over playing Pride.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12554597/Louise-Redknapp-pulls-Eternal-reunion-bandmates-REFUSE-play-LGBTQ-festivals-Pride-claims-hijacked-trans-community.html

'Louise Redknapp pulls out of Eternal reunion after her bandmates REFUSE to play LGBTQ+ festivals and Pride over claims they are being 'hijacked' by the trans community'

You’re making the assumption it will happen.

Based on the fact that it happened to others. JKR, Roisin Murphy, Amanda Abbington to name a few.

Women recently couldn't meet up to talk about issues that affect women without getting followed, screamed at and harassed in the street. What a way to stick up for your beliefs eh.

Man launches violent attack on group of women, killing one and injuring two. Yes, obviously the fault of feminists….

Well you aggressively believe it is right to speak for other people and publicly announce someone else's private beliefs. So yes you are being aggressive and true to form to the bullying that trans activists have as their stock in trade.

It is not up to you to publicly announce another person's beliefs. It is a violation of privacy, and an act of aggression.

The abuse they get isn't comparable, no.

However, I don't think Louise is under any more obligation to do the tour without pride events, than the Bennett sisters are under obligation to do it with pride events.

Worrying that some people on this thread think that she should be a hostage to other people's beliefs.

Ooh, someone’s found the bold button as is really excited by it…

We're making the assumption it will happen because it happens to every woman who publicly expressed her disagreement with trans activists.

The difference here (NOT that I am in any way suggesting that JKR, Roisin Murphy, Kathleen Stock et al had it coming in any way) is that Easther and Vernie didn't even choose to make a public statement themselves. They preferred to stay quiet and their choice not to publicly attract the wrath of the trans activists was taken out of their hands by Louise.

Worrying that some people on this thread think that she should be a hostage to other people's beliefs.

Does anyone think this? Has anyone on the thread said this? Or have they said she can believe what she wants but shouldn't out their personal beliefs due to safety fears and ramifications from rabid trans activists?

Pretty sure the number of people on the thread who have said she should be forced to do the tour with them minus the pride events is zero.

Worrying that some people on this thread think that she should be a hostage to other people's beliefs.

And that's the point many of us are making. The Bennett sisters should not be held hostage to Louise's beliefs.

How are they being “held hostage”? They’re not being forced to do the tour.

No, they're being punished for not doing it by being thrown to the hyenas.

Can you explain why you think it is OK for Louise to put them at risk like this?

I don’t believe she is putting them at risk.

Oh well that's fine then, they've stopped attacking women. Phew!

What you believe isn't relevant.

We have seen time and time again that women who choose to put their own heads above the parapet and object to this misogynistic, homophobic movement are harassed, threatened, assaulted and doxxed.

Whether you choose to believe it or not is neither here nor there.

Louise chose to disclose Easther and Vernie's position to the same group of people who brandish placards saying "punch a TERF", threaten to send pipe bombs to JK Rowling, and try to get people fired from their jobs for saying men can't be women.

What you believe isn't relevant.

I was asked to explain my view. It should be obvious that what I believe is not only relevant, but fundamental, to my answer.

But you're wrong.

There isn't really any other way of putting it.

Trans activists are violent and threatening towards women who don't share their beliefs every day. The internet is filled with evidence of it. And those are the people Louise chose to share Easther and Vernie's views with, without their consent.

Of course she has put them at risk.

This isn't a debate.

She risked their safety for woke points. Or else she is a complete fucking airhead who has no idea about the violent and predatory behaviour of the vulnerable and marginalised people she believes she is supporting.

But you're wrong.

You're as entitled to that opinion as I am to mine. It doesn’t make my view irrelevant.

Well that is shocking coming from a misogynistic movement apologiser. Just shocking.

How much evidence do you need that trans activists are dangerous to women who don't agree with them?

And religious extremists are dangerous to everyone. You’d never tar everyone following a particular religion with the same brush in the way that you’re desperate to do with the trans community.

Risk of violence is a major concern and is something that has happened to many women who have raised this issue, but cancellation is almost guaranteed.

The statement was deliberately put out as revenge for not agreeing to all of the shows. It was done knowing that they would be punished (in the form of limited media appearances, cancelled shows etc).

Roisin Murphy expressed views on a private FB page, the Bennett sisters didn't even write of say anything that could be shared (as hard evidence), this was part of confidential negotiations with agents etc.

I think the words were 'trans activists'. Did anyone state 'the whole trans community'? Nice bit of whataboutery though.

I'm not tarring the entire community with the same brush.

I am saying - and this is a fact, not an opinion - that some trans activists regularly threaten, harass, doxx and assault women who disagree with them.

Louise made a public statement about Easther and Vernie.

Those trans activists are members of the public and can see what she has said.

She has given them a new target for their criminal activities.

Throw around all the buzzwords you like - you’re still making an assumption that trans activists are all violent.

No, we are stating the undeniable fact that a lot of them are.