Eternal reunion collapses after disagreements over playing Pride.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12554597/Louise-Redknapp-pulls-Eternal-reunion-bandmates-REFUSE-play-LGBTQ-festivals-Pride-claims-hijacked-trans-community.html

'Louise Redknapp pulls out of Eternal reunion after her bandmates REFUSE to play LGBTQ+ festivals and Pride over claims they are being 'hijacked' by the trans community'

I think the problem is that they appear to have been content to not play pride and not comment on their reasons, which seems fine to me. However, now they've had an explanation made on their behalf, without their permission, one which has been shown in the past to provoke a very extreme backlash.

They were content to not play Pride, no-one has the right to force them to do that.
Louise and Kelle didn't want to do the tour if Pride wasn't included, do you think they should be forced too?
I've no doubt there will be a backlash, and there shouldn't be, but why should Louise be left in a position of either doing a tour she longer wants to do or making it look like she was the one who backed out?
They should have the courage of their convictions IMO.

Sorry, that should read 'content to continue the tour...'

Ah, the good old "Consequence Culture" post.

In a couple of years time it will be you paying the consequence for holding these views, when people realise the harm that is being done to children.

Louise and Kelle didn't want to do the tour if Pride wasn't included, do you think they should be forced too?

Of course not. What a silly question.

You act like this was some major dilemma for her.

As if Eternal haven't been on the verge of doing a reunion for about 20 years and always not gone ahead due to "schedule clashes" or "creative differences" or whatever.

The number of people who would have said, "But WHY isn't Louise Redknapp performing at Pride events?!" is zero.

And of course she could still perform at them as a solo artist.

Literally no need for her to badmouth her former bandmates.

Where was there anything to say that they refused to perform for anyone who is trans?

It's the same old story when it comes to trans. Take a story completely out of context and embellish it. Wouldn't be surprised to hear "deny trans existence" next.

How can Louise support LGBTQ when she is happy to see the trans lot trample on the L in LGBTQ ? Seems to me she is 2 faced.

To badmouth someone I'd say you have to attack them.
Accurately representing their views wouldn't fall into that category.
Interestingly you seem to suggest that Louise should have done the tour anyway, regardless of her views/ her own career/ desire to make more money? Why do her views count less than those of the Bennett sisters? Because they accord with yours @MargotBamborough ?

Lol. Thanks for putting that awful song in my head all day.

I think making incendiary comments about the Bennett sisters believing that the LGB are being taken over by the T and then smugly commenting that you support all the LGBTQ+ community, in a political environment where TQ+ activists are known to threaten and harass women who don't share their beliefs, is reprehensible.

All she had to do was mind her own business and get on with her own life. If directly questioned about why the reunion wasn't happening anymore she could have just said something neutral like, "it didn't work out" or "we didn't have the same vision".

Would Louise do ANY gigs if it weren't for Pride ones? It's her bread and butter.

The difference is there would not be the same backlash - as in public, viscous ... have you SEEN the abuse women get for stepping away from the T? - towards Louise and Co for staying we not tour without Pride events.

Surely it's obvious it's not even comparable?

All she had to do was mind her own business and get on with her own life. If directly questioned about why the reunion wasn't happening anymore she could have just said something neutral like, "it didn't work out" or "we didn't have the same vision".

Why should she have to do that? If the Bennett sisters are sincere in these beliefs, they can stand by them.

Exactly.

If Louise does understand what sort of backlash her comments might cause for Easther and Vernie, what she did is appalling.

If she doesn't understand, maybe she needs to educate herself about why some people, including Easther and Vernie, actually object to the TQ+ and those who engage in trans activism, and consider whether that's something she actually wants to continue supporting.

What absolute bullshit.

Its the "IF" in there that makes the difference.

They haven't been allowed to say why,
All we have is hearsay;
And its hearsay that will bolster Louise's position in the Queer and trans community.

From a PR perspective it is highly unusual to proactively release a statement detailing a disagreement or difference of beliefs. And there's a reason for that - it does not reflect well on either party.

Louise's approach to this has been decidedly unpleasant. She is either poorly informed, poorly advised or perhaps just deliberately spiteful.

She may have boosted her reputation among TRAs, but at what cost to the Bennett sisters and herself?

Is it really "bullshit" we are already starting to see people de-transition and claims in court by those that did not receive the correct counselling and therapy for their issues and that were directed on to a transitioning path.

How many more will it take?
And that s doesn't even take into account the current change in rulings from the sports bodies.

They haven't been allowed to say why

Who’s stopping them?

Maybe the same thing that stops many women from openly and publicly discussing their views?

No one should be forced to declare their beliefs, but Louise has created a situation where they feel pressured to defend, deny or clarify. But anything they do say will be pored over, analysed and criticised. It's not exactly an appealing prospect, is it? Sometimes silence is the best of several bad options.

There was just no need for any of this.

So we’re supposed to laud the Bennett sisters for having these views, yet attack Louise Nurding for publicising it?

Madness.

She's welcome to talk about her own views all she likes.

What she has done here is tell a community of people with form for attacking women who disagree with them that two women disagree with them.

Speaking as a middle aged straight woman, I think it's odd that middle-aged straight women dominate Pride line-ups - Kylie, Eternal, Nadine Coyle, Lisa Scott Lee etc. Surely the conversation should be about making sure gay and lesbian artists get profile and top billing?

We don't now what views the Bennett sisters hold or why, But you already believe someone else that is trying to big themselves up.