There has been quite a lot of in the past year how women are now choosing to stay single and they rather be alone. Are you actually seeing this in real life?

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Also there is big talk how women won’t date just any man, women have standards and no woman now NEEDS a man.
I’m not really sure why they push these articles, often times they are total hyperbole too (apperently in 2030, 45% of women aged 25-44 are unmarried and childless. Like not being married and not having kids in your 20’s is even worth saying - nevermind a headline!)

To be clear, I support all of this. Being or staying long term, or whole life, single. Being childfree.
I personally am single and don’t want kids. So definitely not saying anything bad about these news and studies and what-not. I’m just not seeing it in real life.

That being said, I don’t really see this in the real world. Most women still want boyfriends/husbands. So many put with shit (biggest is porn watching, honestly can’t understand how any woman can stay and love a man like this) I could never.

And I’ve been looking for women to be friends with, who have something else than men in mind, they are HARD to find, impossible.
I don’t know one women who isin’t/doesn’t want a relationship and don’t do hook-up’s (sorry, but these women are often times worse than women in relationships, men take so much of their mental space).

Anyway, that was my linger than intented rant.
My question and point was: have you personally seen these ’women are walking away from men’ thing happening?

No, dating is the part of the process where you decide if you are compatible with someone. At that point no one owes anyone anything.

And it may surprise you that dating does not have the end goal of finding a life partner, settling down into family life and having babies for everyone.

I never lied to anyone. I never told them I was looking to settle down get married and have babies.

I never told them I was looking for something deep and meaningful.

Just straight sex, no babies and a good time.

It was fairly obvious to the men that these are friends with benefits relationships, and as such the second they start to annoy me they are shown the door.

Not everyone is looking for the same thing in relationships.

And 'heartless'

Thanks! It's one of my best features 😘

And whilst I'm here, talk about lying... Want to guess what percentage of men failed to mention they have a wife or girlfriend and kids at home when they were trying to get into my pants?

At least I was always upfront that I was just after some fun.

Oh god yes. And let’s not forgot the ones who really really want a relationship but only one that involves regular shags and never actually going anywhere outside the bedroom. And if we’re really lucky we get tested to a dick pic to drool over.

I have a few friends who have decided to spend their lives single, no kids, not seeking relationships. If DP weren’t around, I think I would likely do the same. Their lives are peaceful and happy, no compromises to be made.

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I used to find it funny when the guys who if they actually do agree to go out in public decide it would be nice to drive to an out of the way pub an hour from where they live!I

How to tell me you're married without telling me you're married!

I honestly think there are two lots of people. Those who want to date purely with the purpose of finding their life partner, and those that just want a more relaxed way of life where no one owes anyone anything, but fun times and decent sex.

And did me it's the second option and if it's not fun or the sex isn't decent then why continue?

I know a lot of twenty somethings - both men and women - who are not looking to date or for a relationship. In all cases these are attractive and very personable young people.

I think it's a lot more of an option than when I was young when not dating or looking for a relationship in my experience would be viewed as quite weird.

Oh okay. So why not start two families while you're at it? Why stop at lying. Let's take it further! This is true feminism. A lot of men are terrible so let's act exactly like the terrible ones!

A lot of men are also violent criminals. Want to start a drug cartel and human trafficking ring also? It makes a lot of money. And men do it all the time. It'll give women a leg up in the world.

I'm just saying before I go.... Men's rights groups are probably going to get very excited about this thread when they get ahold of it. It's proving a lot of really negative stereotypes about feminists... No way deleting this is going to help. It's probably going to be screenshot to death and immortalized on some degenerate forums or toxic reddit subs.

I don't want a relationship anymore. Was married and do have kids but I've decided to stay single now. Don't want a bf or a man or sex or a relationship.
Happy alone .

Why?
What has happened or said here?
Why would men be angry?

I don't know enough younger women to say for sure if this is true but I can certainly imagine many younger women deciding not to bother with men. I have realised increasingly that I was brought up with the idea, albeit not overt, that Husband was The Goal and getting married and having kids was The Achievement but I just don't think that holds anymore. I'm fine with my decision and life but I don't think it is right for everyone and I do think my DS's generation might have a bit of a shock at having to meet higher standards when women are wise to the fact that generally unmarried women are happier because married women do a lot of the work that makes married men happier than single ones!

I am very strongly of the opinion that this needs to happen. Statistically we know that marriage and motherhood are not good for women- far too many of us end up unhappy, poor, or dead. But nothing will change until enough of us vote with our feet to cause a real problem for society as a whole.

???

Firstly why would anyone on here give a stuff what MRAs think of us? What negative stereotypes? Why would woman on here want it deleted? Who cares if it's screenshot? And lastly it's the internet we all know what could happen when we post?

So what is the issue exactly?

Who gives a shit what they think?

It's proving a lot of really negative stereotypes about feminists

Haw haw haw. MRAs don't need 'proof' to hold really negative stereotypes about feminists. And as someone said, who cares anyway?

Hmm, pretty much written into the definition of feminism is ‘unlikely to edit opinions to avoid causing a froth on MRA subreddits full of incels pontificating in their pants in a bedroom full of 2022 takeaway cartons’.

Well, either they can find posts of women saying how they are single but wish they had had kids/settled down when they had the chance. Thus confirming the egg box theory. Or they find posts of women saying they are happy to be single. Thus confirming the feminists as man hating hags theory. Either way they will be happy so at least we brightened their little days 😚

And I'd be really interested in learning about the numbers of men who don't have children, too, but for some reason this is not an interesting topic to discuss

@nepeta to be fair there have been a few articles recently in the Guardian etc. I think because men don't have a biological clock they are more likely to drift into childlessness whereas women usually know that they have until X age. But I suspect that if a man hasn't had children by 45/50 the odds of him having them at all are very slim. There are men who have had children after that age but they all tend to be on their second families (after the first children are almost grown up). I can't think of any having children for the first time at that age. So in a sense I think the menopause is a bit of an advantage for women since at least it gives a deadline and comes with the sense of making an informed decision (even if that decision is a very difficult one). And I don't think the MRA emphasis on women's biological clock and how they will all be desperate come the age of thirty is helpful to men but what can you do.

I'm single, a mum with a teen.

It isn't true that I prefer to be alone, but having no relationship is better than having a bad relationship.

When ds heads off to university in a couple of years, I will think about a new relationship, but I don't hold out much hope.

I gave up before because the men I met wanted a cook and cleaner, with sex on tap, but without showing any care, consideration or affection. And too many were worryingly interested in the value of my house.

I'm neither desperate nor a fool.

Mid 40s, happily single, occasionally enjoy casual sex. I most definitely do not want a serious LTR.

As above: so many men have addiction or self esteem issues, or are lazy and entitled. I m conscious of who I surround myself with and don't want to be dragged down by anyone, or viewed as someone else's free sex toy.

Men babies who want a endocrine high are everywhere, there are very few eligible men even for a casual hook up. It's great to value my own peace of mind and agency. It's liberating to be free. So many men waste your time, expecting their next door fuck jar to work around their boys toys timetable. No thank you.

Say no to the pressure to be a handmaiden. Just say NO!!!

I see it with my retired contemporaries yes... so many woman ( mainly) end up being carers to their husbands and even if you live every fibre of their being can't help envying being answerable to me and me alone.

As said up thread….

Love my DH but if anything happened to us/him I would not seek out another partner.

As I said to a friend…can you imagine having to go through learning all about another man’s toileting. No thank you!