Worrying Increase in Transphobia

[PorcelinaV]

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/09/transphobia-uk-press-media-negative-coverage/

An increase in transphobic sentiment among the British public has been fuelled by hostile coverage of trans people from the right-wing press, argues data journalist Ell Folan....

Unfortunately, newspapers still have a great deal of influence on the public and political agenda in Britain, and nowhere is this more obvious than in how perceptions of trans rights have changed.

As recently as Feburary 2021, an absolute majority of British voters (51 per cent) agreed with the statement “a transgender woman is a woman”, including 6 in 10 women. Just 34 per cent disagreed. But after years of negative coverage from the press, those numbers have changed.

In April this year, only 33 per cent of voters agreed that trans women are women, with 47 per cent disagreeing....

It is clear that the media plays an important role in shaping public perceptions, and unless their negative coverage is corrected and refuted, public opinion will continue to worsen.

@Talltall

These comparisons are dishonest and offensive.

None of those people were demanding rights that no one else has, or the erasure of other groups.

It's so shocking to see, in a country where the Nazis hung resisters and shipped Jews off to be mass-murdered, aggressive masked young men chanting "Nazi scum" and "throw the Nazis in the canal" at women who don't want to be erased.

Quite apart from the vile misogyny, the likening of Nazis to GC women is a form of holocaust trivialisation and denial. It should not be tolerated by any civilised country, but most particularly by one that saw Nazi occupation during the war.

If a person is going to abuse they won't dress up in order to do that, they're going to do it anyway. I don't see hoards of Trans people doing this. It will be the smallest minority as with any sector of society.

If a burglar wanted to burgle your house they'd do it anyway. People however still lock their doors, have alarms and ring doorbells and the like. It's called... dah dah daaahhh - safeguarding. Trying to put measures in place to lessen the risk. Hence why certain spaces are sex segregated.

And the whole 'a person doesn't need to put on a dress to hurt someone' blah blah blah pish argument.

Their intent doesn't matter, it could be nefarious or it could be entirely innocent, a woman (the ones with vaginas) doesn't need a reason to be in a sex segregated space whether that's a toilet or changing room, without the presence of a penised male, regardless of how they identify. End of.

I have lovely male family members, and if any of them woke up tomorrow identifying as a female (as much as a male can I suppose) I'd still not want any of them in a female space despite believing whole heartedly that they wouldn't harm a fly. Because, I recognise that their mere presence could make someone else uncomfortable. The ones who force themselves into spaces despite this are exactly the ones you don't want there.

How is that so difficult to understand.

@BreatheAndFocus

re self identity we agree.

that's what's causing the issue and the trans phobia

nothing more.

Here is another issue that maybe @Messyhair321 and anyone who hasn’t realized the extent and depth of how gender indentity that prioritises gender over sex in all instances impacts women

https://thecritic.co.uk/cancel-culture-in-academia

Brava!

Absolutely this

'what problems are there really'

Manchester police had to escort women away from a meeting because they were being followed by a mob; eventually they provided transport.
The mob has faced no consequences. Its illegal to harass people based on their protected characteristic, but its not a hate crime to harass women.

https://twitter.com/Sorelle_Arduino/status/1700851835462894007

Yes @Messyhair321 ! A meeting. Organized by women for women. Was protested to the degree that police had to take two women away in police cars for their own protection. …

But sure. “what problems are there really”

List of A Women's Place UK meetings, including details of those disrupted by protesters -

womansplaceuk.org/2021/10/27/record-womans-place-uk-meetings/

Once the battle against transphobia is won, I honestly think the next group that society will target for discrimination will be trans-racial people or the trans-age community.

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What even is trans age?!

I rather think that was not exactly a joke but an ironic statement.

Well... this dude

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-murderer-prison-identify-baby-26669658

The OP - @PorcelinaV - was being funny.

Given the age of criminal responsibility in Scotland, they may need to be immediately released.

Now do you see why we need to keep differentiating between how people say they feel and what they factually are?

Worrying increase in belief in biological realty

Worrying increase in the belief that men cannot become women ( and visa versa )

Fixed it for you. You're welcome

I read an interesting article in the NYT from a journalist who was concerned that the #meetoo movement would trigger a male aggressive response to suppress women. This is it.

We have to keep fighting against this and use our voting powers to demand what our political parties position is on this.

We will not allow the eradication of the word female or woman from our language particular in health care.

And yet we have this. The front birth. From a hospital

What is a back birth?

Omg, they’ll be calling vaginas “front bottoms “ next!

I can see where the comparisons to s28 come from. They are I think wrong but there are areas, like homosexuality was considered a mental illness in the dsm3 until 1973. Children were not allowed to be taught about it.
To someone who doesn't read the news or know what is happening it sounds similar when gc people say stop children socially transitioning.

On the nazi point, well tra certainly have many similarities so maybe projection onto the gc view, that one really is hard to understand given its the trans lobby disabling kids and sterilising people!

Wanted to quote this brilliant post as it nails it for me.

" It's not trans people who are the problem."

You are almost there, Messy. Almost there.