Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

[KnittingDiva]

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

Yes, like the woman speaking about the abuse of her mother and subsequent death of her baby sister in the mother and baby homes.

But the MRAs have to make it all about them.

Thanks.

So @LizaBizza, please tell us just what this image you have posted is about. Who is it and where is it?

It’s not like the TRAs were listening, anyway - they were simply intent on trying to prevent women from speaking.

They failed. Dismally.
They did succeed, however, in showing their true selves and that is very welcome. ☀️☀️☀️☀️

I was stewarding right up beside the speakers & heard every word.

Well done for your stewarding!

I suggest you actually do the research and listen to the women speaking. I mean actually listen.

And then go and listen to the other events.

Surely you haven’t missed the women posting about how protestors were singing things like ‘murder on the dance floor’ and other things while women were speaking about losing their babies and other feminist issues yesterday? Did you read about that?

Maybe you need to pull your head out of your bubble and go and seek facts instead of dismissing women the way you have. You have really done yourself and who ever you profess to support No favours. It is very familiar really, this style of posting. It is like deja vu on a loop.

Many thanks to you and to the other stewards! Awesome work!

Which ‘actual fascists’ are you talking about?

I listened online. I wish I was there. It was wonderful to see hundreds of people turn up to support and listen to women speak. The speeches were so moving.

I am heartened to see how much LWS has grown. Next time they come I hope to have the courage to join you.

Stewarding was as we sat in Dublin a Deadly Buzz Bud.

We are still waiting for that information? We have been given the name of one man. Who didn’t speak and didn’t disrupt or cause any person harm while standing in an openly public space.

We are also waiting for confirmation of the law in Ireland that should have been used to exclude that man from being in that open public place while not causing any disruption, seeking to speak or giving the police any cause to believe he was a potential threat to those present.

So far, it is tumbleweed and crickets.

Oh, absolutely this! My DS has recently graduated (STEM). Most of the students at his university were sick to the back teeth of the Students Union types disrupting their studies and wasting their time.

They were seen for what they really are: a bunch of mostly well-off, easily manipulated agitators trying to ruin the education of their fellow students. The actual cause doesn't matter to them.

I really liked that!

I can confirm that humanities students also are sick of the gender ideology too.
The one that did a she/they/he/they/she trajectory I knew best through school was doing a biology related degree (!) and rolls her eyes at her younger sister who is a they in Year 9 at the moment. It is seen as something very immature and passé now. The vocal ones are tolerated but avoided as they are intimidating and repetitive.

Dd tentatively asked her fellow students about it and there was a big collective sigh of relief when everyone said what a load of nonsense it was. It did take a bit of skirting around the issues as it is intimidating to bring it up. This was a northern university and her friends were bright northerners, from working class or middle class backgrounds. All humanities.

Can confirm teens in secondary school are, reportedly, sick to the back teeth of it, too.

Here's a photo that is from yesterday. It's your leader flipping the bird at the LGBT community.

Frankly, he isn't doing your side any favours.

Well, I'm an ex teacher and my daughter is currently teaching, and many pupils now roll their eyes at the whole business - and even joke that " they'll get cancelled" if word gets out. They think many young trans identified people are merely attention seeking.

But then again noone in my family is a TERF

Given that to be a "terf", you just have to be a woman with a backbone who wants female only spaces when she needs them, I doubt your female relatives would tell you, a misogynist.

Women at such events do speak about " women's issues". The sorts of women''s isues which mean it is important for women to have space, dignity, respect and privacy - away from men, and from the male gaze altogether.

Women's issues are rthe very reason that women are speaking out and pushing back. What else do you think motivates women to want to protect the dignity of their sex from trans ideology?

'your leader' 'your side'

Liza, we are adults here. We don't have a 'leader' and I personally try to avoid categorising people into simplistic tribal 'sides'.

So far, all you have managed to do here is attempt to fling some weak insults at women on the board.

Do you have any arguments of substance to make, or are you just bringing ad homs?

Maybe the get the TRA/MRA vibes off you and just keep their head down in your presence.

@LizaBizza I think Glinner was rather restrained! I would happily stick my finger up at people who call women fascists, too

Indeed. Especially if you keep flinging around terms like 'TERF' as insults.

Could be a reason women aren't open about their beliefs in the presence of people who are so aggressive and judgemental.

No @LizaBizza this is him giving the finger to a bunch of straight male thugs who want into women's spaces.

Is Ireland very religious ? In my part Mass attendance is actually holding up - yet this constituency passed Gay Marriage with a massive majority. Nobody has a problem with LGB people here. I can't imagine they do in Dublin Belfast or Cork either.

But this myth is something to cling to I suppose. Along with the idea that GC feminists are all unwitting dupes of British colonialism. Tell that to Iseult White. Her grandfather founded Amnesty International ( God knows what he'd make of it now) . And her great grandfather was shot by the British after the Easter Rising.

Liza, trans activism/liberation, an amoral movement with no scientific basis, contrary to material reality, with no philosophical basis let alone rigor, that is predicated on reducing the human rights of women and gays, resulting in the sterilisation and speedy osteoporosis of youth as they age, that can only survive when no testing of its concepts or dissent is allowed, has no history and no historical figureheads/icons, and promises nothing positive, while requiring the breakdown of society to succeed, foreshadowing medical scandal after medical scandal and the full re establishment of male hegemony over women and gays.

And your response "duh, you're consorting with fascists".

Nope, we'll keep fighting the good fight. One day you'll be old, a Helen so to speak, of the age of LWS attendees that you so berate and belittle. And Generation Alpha today, who will progessively and comprehensively reject your trans worldview will be the younger contingent to you, MN/LWS crowd the older ones. God, I'd hate to be stuck in your thin strata of opinion. Not too late for you to apply critical thinking and ditch childish and selfish views.