Roisin Murphy

[WarriorN]

Is it true? Did did say this?

"Puberty blockers ARE FUCKED! Big pharma laughing all the way to the bank!"

More support. Nobody should be 'cancelled' full-stop, as I'm sure we all agree.

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/letters-roisin-murphy-should-not-be-cancelled-for-simply-expressing-her-views/a163494626.html

Britain's Sharpest Man Andrew Doyle weighs in..

@Annasgirl
https://archive.ph/RZYr5

Here you go, interested to hear your thoughts.

Yes, but she was also absolute certain about the meaning of sex and the fact of her own sex - in spite of being thoroughly and wilfully gender non conforming.

.........on puberty blockers for vulnerable children?

Is it the Bee Gees? I vaguely recall Lulu announcing her engagement to Maurice on her show after she sang To Love Somebody , with him on piano.

@Abhannmor

We have our winner !

I tend to agree with @irishfeminist . Trying to divine Sinéad O Connor's take might not be a very fruitful exercise. She was a very compassionate person so she might have supported Róisín without necessarily agreeing with her.

Decades ago a journalist mentioned her - often changing- opinions to her brother Joseph. He said ' well why do they keep asking her how to fix the world? She's 23' . Or words to that effect.

Ta da! I was standing staring at a shop window in 7 Dials once when I felt a presence beside me. Twas yer wan Lulu. She paid me no heed , being entranced by the fashionable gew gaws in the shop. She is tiny. I decided that she is a good egg , despite being a Tory. Illogical I know , Captain. Oops...meant for @Biffology

@CorruptedCauldron Alex Kapranos also wrote a song comparing a domestic abuser to Jesus so I take anything he says with a massive pinch. Horrible wee misogynist.

See if this works

Eilis O’Hanlon: How is cancelling Róisín Murphy any different from cancelling John McGahern? (msn.com)

Brendan O'Neill helpfully draws a few parallels between people we've mentioned here.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/09/04/from-sinead-to-roisin-why-blasphemous-women-get-cancelled/

Yes this line stood out to me too. Roisin isn't dumb - she's letting us know that this is a coerced apology.

I'd like to know who exactly is driving this 'cancellation'. Roisin has a huge gay following and, according to my brother, who is very much (self-described) a 'gay on the scene' - "no one thinks this is in any was a controversial opinion and I don't really care anyway".

@Dramatico
She also says 'I cannot apologise enough' , which I read as her way of saying 'You people are everything your critics will say about you.'

This article so hits the spot. Part of my reconciling my thoughts on this whole philosophy is shedding any notion that we really had a free speech championing age. Yes, it was easier being counter cultural in the 60s-90s, but in retrospect even then you had to plug into the zeitgeist.

As the author says, the only things that are different today are the gatekeepers, what's considered good or bad to say, and critically that there is no exit, no resolution as the Stasi of social media outers follow you around closer than your own shadow.

Brendan O'Neill is really solid on this issue. He's a great ally, and genuinely seems to understand why so many women are concerned at being asked to accept a whole new definition of the word 'woman' and all of the scary consequences. I find him a lot more empathetic towards woman than many other gender critical men

Her "apology" is coded? Really?

I did read her "I stepped out of line", and felt that was particularly stinging and humiliating.

I didn't read that as underlining a message somewhat different to how it read.

Kinda like "my ISIS captors have made my life so much more comfortable than it ever had been in the West" being a plea to "come and rescue me".

Brendan is bang on target here. I really have a cloudy memory of Sinead from that period. I really don't remember her being so castigated that her career was derailed, and her very sanity doubted/put at risk.

I'm kinda ashamed to say I don't remember her "disappearing". Especially since I'm so tuned into the current cancel culture.

I think the Róisín debacle will run and run, because if she as a liberal, feisty, much loved artist, that noone has a bad word for previously, with feet in the queer and GC camps of fans, is truly rubbed out, the bloodlust from the cancellers will become insatiable.

'I completely understand that for others activism is their true calling, and is necessary and legitimate in a democracy '

in a democracy

Brendan O’Neil gets it more and more doesn’t he?

..And now those #PRAMs are going to get it, too. Time to stand up against them.

I agree, there’s a difference between stepping out of line and being out of line.

https://www.music-news.com/news/UK/164095/Roisin-Murphy-says-pop-mainstream-is-drowning-in-confessional-music

@RealityFan

'I didn't read that as underlining a message somewhat different to how it read.' Well, maybe it is.. As someone who's been in her good books and her perhaps-not-so-good-books at times, you don't get told off in a direct way, but in an oblique way.

It made me think of stepping out of my lane - I think the wording is ambiguous and hope it’s on purpose!