Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BookThatMatter exclude "terfs"

85 replies

LonelyFlans · 17/08/2023 12:57

BooksThatMatter are a book subscription service that focus on books by female writers. They went on dragons den and ended up refusing funding as they didn't want to compromise this. All good.

They've always been lib fem but you could choose to ignore that if you still wanted to support a female-focused business.

However they've just rebranded as AphraBookClub and in the introductory Instagram post they've clearly stated "no terfs". When some women pointed out that this is offensive, they've stated that "terfs are swiftly being blocked".

How very disappointing.

BookThatMatter exclude "terfs"
BookThatMatter exclude "terfs"
BookThatMatter exclude "terfs"
OP posts:
Saltysamphire · 17/08/2023 14:30

Oh dear, I notice an earnest young fan has asked on IG if they will be including trans- men’s books such as Elliott Page’s? How very transphobic.

It’s a shame as I’m sure I like many other women would otherwise love to subscribe to a genuinely feminist woman only book subscription service rather than this embarrassing mess of handmaidenry, misogyny and dick pandering.

ArabeIIaKarenScott · 17/08/2023 14:30

Existance? ODFOD.

FoodFann · 17/08/2023 14:31

Mingomang · 17/08/2023 13:00

The spiel sounds incredibly juvenile.

Juvenile af

MrsMitford3 · 17/08/2023 14:35

Do they not see the blatant hypocrisy stating in the same line both that they are inclusive but "no terfs" allowed.

Same sort of language in the statement banning Graham Lineham from Edinburgh-something like we are an inclusive venue so we won't let them speak here.

What a ridiculous state of the world!

Yfory · 17/08/2023 14:36

So presumably that means its not a womans bookclub after all! How ridiculous.

MichelleScarn · 17/08/2023 14:36
lacey chabert gretchen weiners GIF

I've got the below image in my head of them at a staff meeting putting all the baddy TERFs in their pink, cute, girly burn book!

ArabeIIaKarenScott · 17/08/2023 14:48

NotTerfNorCis · 17/08/2023 14:45

A rare example of 'go broke, go woke'?

Saltysamphire · 17/08/2023 14:55

NotTerfNorCis · 17/08/2023 14:45

Oh dear. Men’s rights activists AND incompetent grifters. You’d think they’d be trying to shore up as much business as they could in the face of the appalling reputation they’ve earned themselves, but no. On to Instagram they clatter to trumpet their rebrand and insult the women they’re trying to sell to.

StephanieSuperpowers · 17/08/2023 15:43

NotTerfNorCis · 17/08/2023 14:45

Oh dear, it seems they're just not providing the service the woman hostile reader would like.

Catsanfan · 17/08/2023 15:48

How are they claiming to be feminists and exclude us 'terfs'? The 2 completely oppose each other 🤦‍♀️

ReeseWitherfork · 17/08/2023 15:55

I am a woman, I love women, and I find myself gravitating towards female-only enterprises such as book clubs. So this isn’t me shitting on the idea of a female-only book club. Hurrah for that. BUT…. Female authors aren’t underrepresented at all. There are more books published by female authors than male authors. And on average, books by female authors sell more copies. So I do wonder if these people are just throwing around “inclusivity” and “equality” drama for the sake of it. Outrage for the sake of outrage.

Heurgh · 17/08/2023 15:59

NotTerfNorCis · 17/08/2023 14:45

Love the way the CEO graciously offers to refund pissed-off Trustpilot customers 'as a gesture of goodwill' - for books they paid for and never got.

ApocalipstickNow · 17/08/2023 16:06

Oh no! But I need my feminism packaged as cutely AFing possible! What will I do?

(wink wink)

ApocalipstickNow · 17/08/2023 16:07

I’m looking at my copy of The Female Eunuch- it is not cutely packaged AFing all!!!!!

ArabeIIaKarenScott · 17/08/2023 16:19

ReeseWitherfork · 17/08/2023 15:55

I am a woman, I love women, and I find myself gravitating towards female-only enterprises such as book clubs. So this isn’t me shitting on the idea of a female-only book club. Hurrah for that. BUT…. Female authors aren’t underrepresented at all. There are more books published by female authors than male authors. And on average, books by female authors sell more copies. So I do wonder if these people are just throwing around “inclusivity” and “equality” drama for the sake of it. Outrage for the sake of outrage.

You may find the VIDA count interesting.

Yes, women are well represented in publishing, but in certain areas. Some fields are less open to them, and they tend to get fewer reviews. Some of the most prestigious journals don't reflect the numbers of women in publishing. NYRB and the LRB, for example.

https://www.vidaweb.org/the-count/

VIDA Count • VIDA: Women in Literary Arts

https://www.vidaweb.org/the-count

SidewaysOtter · 17/08/2023 16:29

Well, apparently they're "queer owned" so that tells us everything we needed to know.

RebelliousCow · 17/08/2023 16:30

" Stanning" women is something gay men do - not women.

Boiledbeetle · 17/08/2023 16:51

NotTerfNorCis · 17/08/2023 14:45

Odd blip in there of positive reviews all done on 16th June with look incredibly suspect in amongst all the awful reviews!

MavisMcMinty · 17/08/2023 17:02

Perhaps they think it’s just terfs’ impossibly high standards, you know, expecting the things you’ve paid for to be delivered, or thinking a company should be easily contactable if things go wrong. Ban the complainy old hags, problem solved! Rainbow people are always so happy and forgiving, after all.

TheirEminence · 17/08/2023 17:17

Based in Brighton … might explain the obsession with ‘terfs’?

The accounts do make for interesting reading, not much of a profit and the owner/director is indeed just about to turn 27. I don’t want to be gleeful about a young entrepreneur in trouble but ripping off your customers and then pointing fingers at nefarious forces smacks of desperation. Not sure this culture war stuff is actually good for business.

ApocalipstickNow · 17/08/2023 17:22
girls talking GIF by South Park

I’m picturing book club meets being

Saltysamphire · 17/08/2023 17:27

Reading the comments on some of their other Insta posts - you’d have to be mad to subscribe to this scam after reading the experiences of their customers! Comment after comment of people not receiving their boxes and sending four or five emails only to be ignored. Appalling!

cornflakesandtea · 17/08/2023 17:38

Uhh... why would they use this book? As we all know, Elliot Page has mens feels 🤷🏼‍♀️

BookThatMatter exclude "terfs"
Swipe left for the next trending thread