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Comedy event cancelled at the Fringe because of Glinner?

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/08/2023 17:29

I hadn't seen anything about this on X/Twitter previously, but apparently some activists have been putting pressure on the venue and they've cancelled an upcoming event called Comedy Unleashed because one of the comedians is Graham Linehan. How utterly pathetic. https://twitter.com/UnleashedComedy/status/1691476377793409024?s=20 Seems to be organised by/associated with Andrew Doyle, aka Titania McGrath.

https://twitter.com/UnleashedComedy/status/1691476377793409024?s=20

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Abhannmor · 17/08/2023 13:44

A small film festival in the west of Ireland - Achill Island Film festival has tweeted in support of Glinner.

Bit of a ding dong on Twitter . About 50/ 50 I'd say. There is a concerted attempt by a poster called Leonie to get their funding withdrawn. Could do with a bit of support.

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 13:45

It's becoming surreal isn't it?

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 13:49

Good old flying lawyer wants in on the action too of course!

Comedy event cancelled at the Fringe because of Glinner?
Hepwo · 17/08/2023 13:50

Hilarious

Datun · 17/08/2023 13:51

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 13:43

Aimee Challoner
Andrea Long Chiu
Julia Serano
Grace Lavery
Jacob Tobia
Alok Vaid-Menon

So are all these people happy to have their public profile examined in court to prove that the business owner didn't cancel this show on the basis of protected belief?

Has anyone checked with them?

Was it Alok who said little girls are kinky and deviant and not as innocent as you think?

ArabeIIaScott · 17/08/2023 13:55

“There are no fairy tales and princesses here. Little girls are also queer, trans, kinky, deviant, kind, mean, beautiful, ugly, tremendous, and peculiar. Your kids aren’t as straight and narrow as you think they are,” Vaid-Menon wrote.

ArabeIIaScott · 17/08/2023 13:58

I don't think I've ever read the full post that Alok wrote. It's even worse than it sounds from the clip.

Horticulturer · 17/08/2023 14:01

Helleofabore · 17/08/2023 13:34

How handy that Graham provided that list.

He had defined who he means.

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It's not an exhaustive list of who Graham thinks are central to the trans movement, just an example of some of the people that he has confirmed he thinks are central to trans movement.

RealityFan · 17/08/2023 14:05

ArabeIIaScott · 17/08/2023 13:58

I don't think I've ever read the full post that Alok wrote. It's even worse than it sounds from the clip.

"We're not coming for your girls/kids, at the same time your girls/kids are just waiting for us to come to them".

Yep, we see you Alok.

JKR and Glinner, amongst many others, will really be seen as sages, truthsayers and seers, in years to come.

MavisMcMinty · 17/08/2023 14:05

Horticulturer · 17/08/2023 14:01

It's not an exhaustive list of who Graham thinks are central to the trans movement, just an example of some of the people that he has confirmed he thinks are central to trans movement.

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If he’d been allowed to talk more, he might have mentioned more names than he did. He was talking about the powerful influencers behind the trans movement, rather than “celebrities” who are proud trans allies. They’re peripheral, not central, they’re willingly recruited foot-soldiers.

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 14:13

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 12:51

So he is going to court over "nonce"?

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Why are you asking me? The decision to take legal action rests with whoever made the booking.

RealityFan · 17/08/2023 14:14

Abhannmor · 17/08/2023 13:44

A small film festival in the west of Ireland - Achill Island Film festival has tweeted in support of Glinner.

Bit of a ding dong on Twitter . About 50/ 50 I'd say. There is a concerted attempt by a poster called Leonie to get their funding withdrawn. Could do with a bit of support.

They just can't stop themselves. Temper tantrums are bad, but understandable in toddlers. In so-called adults, they're intolerable.

To think, we once had a cultural elite that supported the Python team to the hilt when they were assailed by the Catholic church, ditto protecting the artistic freedom for the likes of Naked Civil Servant to be broadcast.

Only three decades ago, Frank Zappa railed against the fruitcake Moral Majority in Congress against their crusade on rock/rap lyrics.

Lenny Bruce, Edna Everidge, Bill Hicks, and up and coming Ricky Gervais etc, would all be cancelled today.

This is culture carnage. But it needs to happen. The boil of woke groupthink needs to be lanced. And this means the furore over stuff like Adam Bryson, Lia Thomas, Mika Minio, Dylan Mulvaney, and episodes like this, need to happen. To cast the brightest searchlight on this scolding phenomenon.

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 14:16

NotBadConsidering · 17/08/2023 12:57

I didn’t claim they were all more influential or central I believe they are currently as central as Challenor was. Everyone is trying to memory hole Challenor but Challenor’s influence previously is as great as anyone else’s.

But central is subjective. Your central is famous people. For others it’s those who have had influence in ways that don’t stand out on the red carpet in a boy’s tuxedo.

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I think it's ridiculous to claim that Owen Jones is 'as' influential as Challoner was.

But in any event, if they are 'as central' as Challoner, then the fact remains - GL is saying that 'nearly all' of them are nonces.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 14:16

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 12:33

It is based on influence.

The head of LGBT+ network of the joint tenth largest political party in the UK Parliament is simply not as influential as you claim.

A 17 year old sitting on an 'advisory group' of a large charity, one of more than sixteen people on such a group, is simply not as influential as you claim.

I don't deny that Aimee Challoner had some moderate influence - but nothing compared to those on my list in terms of shaping discourse and debate about these issues or influencing policy.

So again, would ask the question - who on my list do you think is a less prominent or central figure than Aimee Challoner?

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I already answered you!

RealityFan · 17/08/2023 14:18

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 14:13

Why are you asking me? The decision to take legal action rests with whoever made the booking.

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Hmm, time for one of those ISIS hostage type apologies from the club owner. The more grovelling the better. It of course won't be heartfelt, but should partially balance the number of GCs who've had to beg forgiveness after other Twitter lynchmobs got hold of their statements supporting girls and women against trans tyranny.

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 14:21

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/08/2023 13:04

Several people posting on this thread are Scottish. We are very well aware that the Scottish Greens are separate to the Westminster Greens. Technically, the same is true for the other big UK political parties too, isn't it - Labour, Tory, LibDem? The Scottish Greens have a totally disproportionate influence in Scotland because they are in coalition with the SNP and have been able to push through the gender reform proposals which the UK government is challenging. They are out of step with public opinion in Scotland but as somebody, probably Arabella, explained to me the other day, thanks to the list system used at elections the Scots are stuck with them for the foreseeable future.

The poster I was quoting didn't know they were separate because they were going on about how influential Challoner was because she was involved with the Green Party that is now propping up the Scottish Government.

But of course Challoner was not involved with the Green Party that is propping up the Scottish Government. She was involved with the Green Party of England and Wales, not the Scottish Green Party.

They are entirely different parties.

Not different in the way that Scottish Tories and UK Tories are, or Scottish Labour and UK Labour are. Those are the same parties with essentially distinct branches. The Green Parties are totally separate and distinct. They are no more linked than, for example, the UK Labour Party and the Irish Labour Party (i.e. they share some international affiliations but they are totally different parties).

IcakethereforeIam · 17/08/2023 14:23

Tbf they were a separate party since, I think, around 1990, but they were aligned and worked together. I suspect there's been some memory holing to obscure the extent of the influence that Challinor had. Can't think why!

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 14:23

Horticulturer · 17/08/2023 14:01

It's not an exhaustive list of who Graham thinks are central to the trans movement, just an example of some of the people that he has confirmed he thinks are central to trans movement.

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Indeed.

By definition, anyone who is more influential or central than those on the list would also count as central trans figures.

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 14:30

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 14:20

Scottish Greens didn’t split from England & Wales Greens until AFTER the Challoner debacle by the way:

2022
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/politics/scottish-politics/3789970/scottish-greens-suspend-ties/

Challoner senior was convicted in 2018

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6091221/The-torture-den-pervert-kept-girl-captive-acted-sadomasochistic-fantasies.html

Wrong again.

The Scottish Greens have existed as a separate party since 1990, as has the Green Party of NI.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 14:31

Mind you, Scots Greens have their own Paedo-associations...

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Pixiedust1234 · 17/08/2023 14:32

I would like to thank Janet for poking the nest as it has brought up many interesting names that are slinking off into the dark past. Good to see them all in one place for the newly awakened.

I also think we have a fudging of a word .
It is based on influence.

Janet appears to think SM, youtubers, journalists as "Influencers".
Majority of MN thinks lobbyists, PR gurus, the kingmakers. Totally different sort of people but the fudging of the word is very similar to the fudging of the word woman etc. Funny that 🤔

Anyway, cheers Janet Wine

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 14:32

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 14:30

Wrong again.

The Scottish Greens have existed as a separate party since 1990, as has the Green Party of NI.

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Only wrong if you read something that I didn’t write! The two parties were linked until 2022.