Page 24 | Yet more police idiocy.

Imnobody4 · 2023-08-09T20:00:07+00:00

[[https://twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1689341024290607106?s=19&t=PlSPnePhEVLMVBfRD89aRA https://twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1689341024290607106?t=PlSPnePhEVLMVBfRD89aRA&s=19]] This shows the arrest of a teenage autistic girl by about 5 police officers. From what I can make out it is for a 'hate' crime. She apparently said a police officer was a Lesbian. Her Nan is a lesbian - that police officer is like my Nan. I cannot comprehend the mindset of these officers.

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:29

Snowypeaks · 14/08/2023 19:26

Lesbian is not a rude word. And it wasn't shouted at her.

Maybe you haven't this experience. I have. I have had many of occasions where people I do not know say the word 'lesbian' at me.

They have different tones, different volumes, different accompanying looks. Maybe an accompanying spit.

It is bizarre that you think they're benignly helping me identify my sexuality 🤣😂🤣

I know they are intending that as a slur towards me.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 14/08/2023 19:30

WhiteFire · 14/08/2023 19:28

There is a small part of me that feels sorry for the police officer and what has been unleashed upon her. It was, however, of her own making. Whatever happened before that point, was lost when she responded that she didn't care that the child was autistic.

And that's why a lot of us don't care either. The incident was bad enough, but I could probably muster some sympathy if it wasn't for her words and attitude.

TheClogLady · 14/08/2023 19:30

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:22

I think you've missed the part where using the label is often synonymous with abusive intent.

Please don't pretend to be ignorant of this. You will know that people often shout terms at people from minorities that they might use amongst themselves but which are intended to slur when used by others.

It might be one word in the street as the person from that minority walks past ...'P or H* or D' but make no mistake, that word is intended to insult and shame them. The person saying the word could turn round and say 'But you are one aren't you? And don't you call each other that? What's wrong with me saying it how it is? What's your problem?' Are you going to say those individuals who are on the receiving end of those words in that context are ashamed of their identity if they dislike that experience?

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And this isn’t what happened.

Lesbian is not an insult.

HTH

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:32

TheClogLady · 14/08/2023 19:30

And this isn’t what happened.

Lesbian is not an insult.

HTH

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I hope my above post clarifies helps clarify how the word 'lesbian' is often used an insult.

TheClogLady · 14/08/2023 19:33

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:32

I hope my above post clarifies helps clarify how the word 'lesbian' is often used an insult.

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But not in this case.

You are projecting.

nauticant · 14/08/2023 19:34

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:32

I hope my above post clarifies helps clarify how the word 'lesbian' is often used an insult.

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Well naturally it doesn't because your game is derailment and that involves misinformation and misdirection.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 14/08/2023 19:36

@suggestionsplease1 how do you know the police officer is a member of the LGBTQ community ?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2023 19:37

I am a rock, I am an island

I love Simon & Garfunkel- such wise words

NecessaryScene · 14/08/2023 19:37

This just shows why all the identity-based "hate" type laws need to be scrapped. They're just something that can be weaponised by people like this police officer, or suggestionsplease1, to be used as cudgels against anyone they don't like the look of, or just if they have some sort of irrational chip on their shoulder.

If anyone actually is harrassed, that can be dealt with by all the normal harrassment laws that apply to everyone. Having extra special rules for special people just allows abusive people who can claim to be "special" to abuse others.

There is a small part of me that feels sorry for the police officer and what has been unleashed upon her. It was, however, of her own making.

I kind of agree. But if the officer didn't feel empowered/entitled to arrest someone for "hate", she wouldn't have got herself in this mess to start with. The "hate" stuff gave her a way to lash out, and enact her own hate. The laws are bad for everyone.

I can see very few situations where the "hate" stuff actually helps anyone suffering harrassment, and a squillion situations where they permit harrassment.

Snowypeaks · 14/08/2023 19:37

@suggestionsplease1
Stop making things up. The disabled, autistic 16-year-old did not shout "lesbian" at the officer. She said - to her own mother - that the officer looked like her lesbian nan.

Police officers are literally paid to stay calm. They are not supposed to act like the Stasi.

Twitter tactics won't work on me. I'm not 12 years old and neither are you. Grow up.

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:37

TheClogLady · 14/08/2023 19:33

But not in this case.

You are projecting.

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Yeah, maybe not in this case? Who knows.

But it happens enough of the rest of the time, constant low level harassment, insults and abuse. Maybe you've never had to deal with that constant assault on who you are by people who have never met you.

Which will obviously only be getting worse for that police officer, and other LGBT officers now.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2023 19:41

But it happens enough of the rest of the time, constant low level harassment, insults and abuse. Maybe you've never had to deal with that constant assault on who you are by people who have never met you.

😂😂😂 this is FWR, that happens here every day

Snowypeaks · 14/08/2023 19:43

NecessaryScene · 14/08/2023 19:37

This just shows why all the identity-based "hate" type laws need to be scrapped. They're just something that can be weaponised by people like this police officer, or suggestionsplease1, to be used as cudgels against anyone they don't like the look of, or just if they have some sort of irrational chip on their shoulder.

If anyone actually is harrassed, that can be dealt with by all the normal harrassment laws that apply to everyone. Having extra special rules for special people just allows abusive people who can claim to be "special" to abuse others.

There is a small part of me that feels sorry for the police officer and what has been unleashed upon her. It was, however, of her own making.

I kind of agree. But if the officer didn't feel empowered/entitled to arrest someone for "hate", she wouldn't have got herself in this mess to start with. The "hate" stuff gave her a way to lash out, and enact her own hate. The laws are bad for everyone.

I can see very few situations where the "hate" stuff actually helps anyone suffering harrassment, and a squillion situations where they permit harrassment.

So true. I've really changed my mind on this issue because of this War on Women.

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 14/08/2023 19:43

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:37

Yeah, maybe not in this case? Who knows.

But it happens enough of the rest of the time, constant low level harassment, insults and abuse. Maybe you've never had to deal with that constant assault on who you are by people who have never met you.

Which will obviously only be getting worse for that police officer, and other LGBT officers now.

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You know who else gets that?

Disabled people

And yet the police officer "didn't care" about the child's disabilities

So as a bisexual disabled mixed race woman who has seen her fair share of crappy comments I'm struggling to summon up some sympathy for someone who lashed out at a weaker, more defenseless child and watched them self harm without giving a shit about them.

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:44

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2023 19:41

But it happens enough of the rest of the time, constant low level harassment, insults and abuse. Maybe you've never had to deal with that constant assault on who you are by people who have never met you.

😂😂😂 this is FWR, that happens here every day

You get this just walking down the street, minding your own business do you? By complete strangers? LGBT people do.

SigourneyHoward · 14/08/2023 19:45

Nice attempt to bait and switch who the real victim of this incident was....🤔

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 14/08/2023 19:47

@suggestionsplease1 how do you know the police officer is a member of the LGBTQ community ?

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 14/08/2023 19:47

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:37

Yeah, maybe not in this case? Who knows.

But it happens enough of the rest of the time, constant low level harassment, insults and abuse. Maybe you've never had to deal with that constant assault on who you are by people who have never met you.

Which will obviously only be getting worse for that police officer, and other LGBT officers now.

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I work with the emergency services. Police officers get 100 times worse than this, every Friday and Saturday night they work. So do I, for that matter, and I'm not even in the police (HCP). I never work a weekend evening without getting some sort of gender-based insult- plus comments on my body, drunken propositions etc. If you can't hack this sort of stuff in the emergency services, you're in the wrong job.

The police do not arrest everyone who insults them - drunken blokes call them far, far worse and get away with it.

So, my question is: why have they arrested a vulnerable 16 year old girl for something that a drunken bloke would never be arrested for?

TheClogLady · 14/08/2023 19:48

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:37

Yeah, maybe not in this case? Who knows.

But it happens enough of the rest of the time, constant low level harassment, insults and abuse. Maybe you've never had to deal with that constant assault on who you are by people who have never met you.

Which will obviously only be getting worse for that police officer, and other LGBT officers now.

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Definitely not in this case.
The girl said, in her own home, to her mother, ‘I think [she/the police officer] is a lesbian like nana’

ie not a public order offence and not an insult directed at the officer

The girl’s grandmother is married to another woman.

As for harrasment? I’m female, of course I’ve experienced it 🙄

And we still don’t know if Officer Lesbian Nana is actually a lesbian (or a nana) or not, so why are you banging on as though she is?

More projection!

LarkLane · 14/08/2023 19:49

It all started with a mention of Fair Cop and their copied tweets from one Inspector Madden from WYP.
Funny that.
But not surprising.

JeanRondeausMadHair · 14/08/2023 19:55

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:44

You get this just walking down the street, minding your own business do you? By complete strangers? LGBT people do.

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Since I was eleven. Less now.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2023 20:00

the fucking arrogance to turn up on
a board comprising primarily of women and telling us we don’t know what it’s like to experience harassment & abuse from complete strangers

fuck me sex is always so obvious isn’t it

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 14/08/2023 20:14

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2023 19:44

You get this just walking down the street, minding your own business do you? By complete strangers? LGBT people do.

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This is literally womens lives

That's why when women were asked what they would do if there were no men for 24 hours they said they would go for a walk

Ourladycheesusedatum · 14/08/2023 20:27

RocketPanda · 14/08/2023 19:17

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Never heard of this company before. Although your choice of throw is gorgeous, I very much like some of the much more colourful ones.
Sadly with all my pets, I'd be forever dry cleaning one of these very fancy throws, so for now, I'll bookmark the page and occasionally covet. And think of you with a giant throw and a stick and potentially a headscarf. Much glamorous.

DerekFaker · 14/08/2023 20:41

LarkLane · 14/08/2023 19:49

It all started with a mention of Fair Cop and their copied tweets from one Inspector Madden from WYP.
Funny that.
But not surprising.

Yes, use certain names on here (CF, FC, KJK, MM) and the batshit signal goes up.