Yet more police idiocy.

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https://twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1689341024290607106?t=PlSPnePhEVLMVBfRD89aRA&s=19

This shows the arrest of a teenage autistic girl by about 5 police officers. From what I can make out it is for a 'hate' crime. She apparently said a police officer was a Lesbian. Her Nan is a lesbian - that police officer is like my Nan.

I cannot comprehend the mindset of these officers.

Is calling for assistance in an unnecessary situation a disciplinary issue?

Do you think any of those officers (based on the information currently available) should be disciplined?

BreadInCaptivity
Is calling for assistance in an unnecessary situation a disciplinary issue?

Not really - you are encouraged to shout for assistance if situations go beyond your control.

You tend to find it usually works the other way - cops trying to deal with fights on their own and get injured as a result, instead of calling for assistance.

Should those cops be disciplined - in my opinion, yes

Thank you for your response.

You get a hard time on here and I'll be blunt, that sometimes you post in a way that's inflammatory/insensitive.

That said, I like FWR MN because it's never been an echo chamber and I'd rather have a diversity of views and be able to see counter arguments/perspectives.

Yes me too.

Well the Daily Telegraph article has got a local Conservative politician quoted as follows:
Andrea Jenkyns, Conservative MP for Morley and Outwood, said: “This is absolutely disgusting, poor girl."
For avoidance of doubt she is on the side of the autistic teenager as quite frankly anyone sensible should be.

“I will be seeking answers on what seems to me a monstrous and callous overreaction.”

I think the final shot of the lesbian police officer (aka victim of hate crime) does not show an individual reflecting on the enormous mess she has created instead it is designed to show how traumatised she is. Except she is a poor actress so her stimulation of emotion seems false and staged. I despair of the British police; no interest in solving real crime, instead driven by divisive ideology and populated by officers with a grudge to bear.

The officer may have been additionally outraged by being compared to a lesbian nana - one of those nasty older type of witches, you know. An unbearable concept for a young woman of that mindset.

There is some debate on Twitter over whether the insult was being called Nanna or lesbian with posters referring to Nanna lesbian. Though PC Poface is also excellent.

Is it possible for members of the public to report this as a hate crime? This is definitively an ableist assault and harassment, along with false arrest. Abusing, threatening, ganging up on and harassing a girl with impaired social skills for having impaired social skills is the definition of a hate crime. As is purposefully manhandling a girl with scoliosis after being told this would cause her pain.

When I tried to report on WYP own website, it says you need permission from the victim and their name and area.

Also, I have archived West Yorkshire Police's victim-blaming and disparaging statement, in case they try to change it:

<a class="break-all" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20230811061039/www.westyorkshire.police.uk/news-appeals/statement-social-media-video-leeds" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">archive

I would bet money that the hateful ableist policewoman is a lesbophobic non-binary or pansexual, and is projecting her own homophobia onto the girl.

Not really - you are encouraged to shout for assistance if situations go beyond your control.

Would calling for assistance because you overheard an autistic teenage girl saying you looked like a lesbian be reasonable though?

Would this particular scenario, which, however you look at it, is an overreaction, be deemed suitable measures by the police?

If I, a member of public, phoned the police because I overheard someone saying something about me, would they come out and assist me? If they did would that be considered reasonable use of police time?

The mother wasn't 'mouthing off' she was advocating for her child.

Absolutely need autism training for police.

That young lad who has a record for asking whether someone is a man or woman needs his record wiped clean as well. Definitely would contribute to a crowd funder for that.

Probably a TERFY old lady too <spits>

If I were a police officer and I dropped what I was doing to rush to the aid of a colleague calling for backup, only to find said colleague in a strop about a terrified child hiding in a cupboard, I'd be really pissed off with said colleague.

This video is one of the most upsetting I’ve seen. The officers are grossly homophobic and ableist (and sexist to boot, with 7 hulking male officers intimidating and cornering a young girl in her home). WY Police need to be sued to this heavens for two hate crimes against protected classes. To hell with them. This should not be buried.

That is fucking disgusting.
I'm furious.
If there are any police reading this thread, this is why so many people have a problem with you.

Once upon a time in a land far away I had a drunk autistic meltdown and called several police officers that were trying to help me "a bunch of effing cnuts", I have no idea why I did that... I was drunk and mid-meltdown.

They said "well isn't that charming language for a young lady" or something and proceeded to delivery me home to my rather bewildered housemates.

Because... proportionality? It probably helped that I was (reasonably) well-spoken and formally dressed (had got raging drunk at a black-tie event) at the time.... but I don't know that.

That video was extremely distressing. I can't imagine what the girl could possibly have said to justify that response. They've responded as if she was a knife-welding maniac. It's rediculous.

I've only just seen this. It's absolutely horrific. I actually can't believe how they've treated her. Thank God it's on camera.

This really is so distressing.

It is very distressing and frightening. As PP have said imagine what it would be like if the police routinely carry guns here. Not one of those officers in attendance have any sense of proportionality.

They’ll all be on the Reddit thread (shared further up) congratulating each other.

They are treating her in a disproportion way and I belive she may have been drunk.

Urgent reviews and training should be triggered and they all need to understand different disability. What an unnecessarily traumatic experience all around.

Pack in.

There is NOTHING in that video to indicate anything other than an overwhelmed child.

If it takes 5 officers to handle that they are not fit for purpose and should be sacked.

I have no idea why they couldn't have written down a note in their little notebooks and picked up the matter in the morning when she was sober and not in such a state.

Either they could have attended the house or asked her to come in voluntarily. What on earth was she dragged down to the station for, when she was already safe in her own house in the care of her Mother?

What possible good did that do, except a vindictive Punishment By Procedure?

which is make no mistake, exactly what this is. A weak move by a weak person, who lost their shit over nothing and abused their power.