Yet more police idiocy.

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https://twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1689341024290607106?t=PlSPnePhEVLMVBfRD89aRA&s=19

This shows the arrest of a teenage autistic girl by about 5 police officers. From what I can make out it is for a 'hate' crime. She apparently said a police officer was a Lesbian. Her Nan is a lesbian - that police officer is like my Nan.

I cannot comprehend the mindset of these officers.

A 16 year old disabled girl was expected to be so violent it was going to need 6 grown adults to restrain her?

6 grown adults who then caused a disabled child pain by ignoring her physical disability? (never mind the ignoring of her autism)

And we do know why she was arrested thanks to the WYP statement. Its just they havent managed to make it sound any more justifiable.

Yes we do know what happened.

The police brought her home from Leeds for her own safety because her elder sister who she snuck out with was worried.

She was arrested because she told her Mum the police woman who brought her home looked like her Nana, who is a lesbian.

Initially only 2 officers brought her home. The others presumably were called as back up after the bizarre and sinister decision to persecute this young disabled girl for saying an officer reminds her of her lesbian Nan.

Yes, I’ve been waiting for that too.

Lol. Isn't there always someone coming here to tell us some bad actor says the same things we say.
Well now we say the same things as your trusted sources! Are we tarring them or they us?

This is the problem with the entire concept of hate crimes. Certain 'protected' people's feelings are now more important than anything else. Stating a fact or making an innocent observation is suddenly 'hateful' and punishable by law. The number of things deemed as 'hate' will only multiply, and who's to say where it will ever end?

https://reduxx.info/uk-autistic-teen-girl-brutally-arrested-by-police-for-homophobic-remark/

Not sure if this has been posted, but gives a lot of info about what happened earlier

Thanks to the WYP statement we know exactly why she was arrested.

We know why the police were at the home.

We know they "didn't care" that she was autistic.

There was zero justification for this arrest other than appeasing the hurt feelings/righteousness of one of the officers present.

Honestly how anyone can watch that video and read the WYP statement and come to any conclusion other than that this was utterly high handed, abusive behaviour to a vulnerable teen girl beggars belief.

This whole bloody "most oppressed" LGBTQ narrative is totally poisonous in running roughshod over far more vulnerable people.

Who was more traumatised here? An adult police officer being called a lesbian or a drunk autistic teen girl.

How was public interest served by this arrest?

WYP need to own this an clean up their bloody act and other people need to stop trying to justify shitty police behaviour.

@BreadInCaptivity very well said. The police need wholesale reform.

Power crazed social and academic failures, lured by the prospect of lording it over those they project their own failings into.

Fucking idiots on r/policeuk defending themselves. Absolute circle jerk.

https://www.reddit.com/r/policeuk/comments/15nhjtf/yorkshire_police_statement_about_the_arrest_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

And there we have it.

(Although I don't condone the name calling in that tweet.)

Let's say that this child had done something really awful that warranted an arrest, does that still excuse the mob handed approach, the police officer saying she didn't care when told that she had autism, and the dragging her around when they had been told that she also had physical issues?

No, we don't know what happened prior to this. Maybe the police officer was already riled and annoyed that they were having to spend time taking a drunken 16 year old home. It probably does feel like it is a waste of your time having to do that, maybe the 16 year old, being autistic had already objected to being manhandled home and had lashed out (as in flailing her arms), we simply don't know. However none of this justifies the escalation of the incident.

that woman was rendered so completely furious by being called a lesbian that she lost control

what the heck is going on? 'Lesbian' used to be an insult when I was at school, but I really thought we'd got past that

She said the WPC looked like a lesbian. Even if that was a really offensive thing to say (it isn't), why did she need to be dragged out of her home mid meltdown to be slammed in a cell overnight? No reason other than to scare the fucking shit out of her. That's not about fair application of the law, that's the police meting out punishment. And that isn't their job.

All of these officers should be stripped of their badges. Unfit for public service

I'd love to hear that policewoman explain exactly why being called a lesbian is so insulting.

There’ll be a reason why the police officer is more oppressed than an autistic teenager.

Of course you don’t 😉

There were two meltdowns. The policewoman had a meltdown when she heard a vulnerable young person suggest that she might be a lesbian. A professional policeperson wouldn't have had that meltdown but, given that she did, her partner should have managed her down. But, rather than behave professionally, the original meltdown was encouraged. This led to the unfortunate young woman's meltdown which gave
WYP the excuse they needed to act like complete Twunts.

Christ on a bike, I've had short hair and often be called a lesbian. So fucking what? I'm not but it doesn't offend me, being a lesbian isn't a bad thing, it's just a sexuality.

I do agree with other posters that it'll probably turn out the police officer is an enbie or something so the young girl misgendered her - wah wah! If that's the worst that the officer has been called then she/he/they has lived an unusual life. Here's a real insult for her/him/them - you are a fucking twat.

The video looks horrific but it is heavily edited presumably by the woman who is holding the camera while mouthing off at the police

What could an unedited video show that would stop it looking horrific? The police statement says all this was because of a 'homophobic public order offence'. Because of comments the girl made. Whatever she said, whether it was 'she looks like a lesbian like nana' or something much worse, there's no need for 6 police officers to treat a vulnerable child having an autistic meltdown like that. You'd expect to see that many officers dealing with a violent or armed adult, not a child who has said something insulting.

And I wouldn't say the mum was 'mouthing off'. She sounds frantic trying to protect her daughter and explain her vulnerabilities amid the chaos to the 6 coppers who clearly don't give a shit.

• Datun I'd love to hear that policewoman explain exactly why being called a lesbian is so insulting.

There’ll be a reason why the police officer is more oppressed than an autistic teenager.*

Absolutely this!! My money is on NB.

I've watched the video again and have a question.

From what I understand she was picked up and returned home by only 2 officers (one being the blond police officer BPO).

The "offence" was conducted and the BPO arrested her.

The child went into meltdown and the BPO said on the video that more units were coming and she was going to be arrested (the audio is a bit unclear as lots of shouting).

Then we cut to far more officers in the house and one of them says "if an officer decides to arrest her...she's under arrest".

So question, if one officer decides to arrest someone then even if other officers think it's bonkers, do they still have an obligation to continue the arrest?

II posted below about WTH none of the other officers simply de-escalated the situation is this because once BPO had arrested her they had no choice?

If so, that's really bloody concerning.

BreadInCaptivity
So question, if one officer decides to arrest someone then even if other officers think it's bonkers, do they still have an obligation to continue the arrest?

No, they don't have to continue with the arrest if they think its wrong.

Also, no body can tell you to arrest someone.
So a Chief Constable can't order a PC to arrest someone.

NotBadConsidering
Of course you don’t

Not sure what you mean

I have said it was wrong what happened and that I would have dealt with it differently.

I can't help wondering how the incident might have played out if the girl, like so many other autistic girls, identified as trans or NB.

Some of the male officers looked very uncomfortable to me and I think the blonde one knew she had fucked up over reacted but was doubling down. I wonder if she chose to stand apart after the other police arrived, or if she was directed to do so.

So why on earth didn't any one of those attending officers just step back and de-escalate?

Why was the remark on the film made that if she's been arrested they have to carry the arrest out?

Surely one of them should have just called time on this?

There are just so many very concerning issues here.

Not least of which of which was at the same time two 15 year old girls has been assaulted in the same locality (Leeds and Bradford being very close) yet 7 officers were busy arresting a young teen in her home.

BreadInCaptivity
Yes - any one of them could have and should have done.

Not least of which of which was at the same time two 15 year old girls has been assaulted in the same locality (Leeds and Bradford being very close) yet 7 officers were busy arresting a young teen in her home.

I agree - so you may have had cops dealing with those other assault.
But they were then diverted away by this assistance shout.