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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman denied cancer treatment for "transphobic" views and discharged from future care

116 replies

HootyMcBooby76 · 08/08/2023 10:10

Have we discussed this?
Apologies if so.
Woman Accuses Hospital of Denying Cancer Treatment Over Transphobic Comment (newsweek.com)

So the mantra is LITERALLY accept this ideology or be prepared to die.
And THEY have the gall to call us (insert word for a member of the far-right National Socialist German Workers' Party).

This is why healthcare and this ideology should be kept very far apart. Healthcare is no longer neutral and unbiased.
Believe or die.

Woman Accuses Hospital of Denying Cancer Treatment

Woman accuses hospital of denying cancer treatment over transphobic comment

The woman compared the hospital's display of a transgender banner to a Nazi flag.

https://www.newsweek.com/woman-accuses-hospital-denying-cancer-treatment-over-transphobic-comment-1817671

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Tempone · 08/08/2023 10:13

She sounds like an incredibly difficult person to deal with from that article. Her use of the worn N#*I probably didn't help her case and from reading the article it was she who refused appointments.

gamerchick · 08/08/2023 10:14

I'm not convinced that was the only reason. She sounds like hard work in general.

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:15

Seems pointing out that 'male violence toward women is undimmed by any level of transition' is now abusive misandry transphobia.

Maddy70 · 08/08/2023 10:16

If you read the article she was abusive to staff and failed to turn up for appointments.
Staff shouldn't have to put up with abuse in their working day

Ingenieur · 08/08/2023 10:16

This is crazy, if true. Doctors regularly treat actual fascists without it compromising their care.

How did this happen?

Sunnava · 08/08/2023 10:17

Tempone · 08/08/2023 10:13

She sounds like an incredibly difficult person to deal with from that article. Her use of the worn N#*I probably didn't help her case and from reading the article it was she who refused appointments.

Are you frigging serious? What can of moral parsings do you have to engage in to justify killing a person who does not adhere to an ideology?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/08/2023 10:17

So she was denied cancer treatment at a place that doesn’t offer oncology services

right

HootyMcBooby76 · 08/08/2023 10:18

Maddy70 · 08/08/2023 10:16

If you read the article she was abusive to staff and failed to turn up for appointments.
Staff shouldn't have to put up with abuse in their working day

She denies being abusive, but my main point is that there should never have been a giant trans flag in a healthcare setting anyway.
I completely agree with her on that.

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VyeBrator · 08/08/2023 10:18

She sounds like a nasty piece of work.

I'd have told her to go elsewhere for treatment too.

Tempone · 08/08/2023 10:22

What hyperbole! She isn't being killed, she refused appointments because of a flag outside, I am GC but a flag wouldn't stop me receiving the medical care I need.

Tempone · Today 10:13
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She sounds like an incredibly difficult person to deal with from that article. Her use of the worn N#I probably didn't help her case and from reading the article it was she who refused appointments.*
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Are you frigging serious? What can of moral parsings do you have to engage in to justify killing a person who does not adhere to an ideology?

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:23

Maddy70 · 08/08/2023 10:16

If you read the article she was abusive to staff and failed to turn up for appointments.
Staff shouldn't have to put up with abuse in their working day

It's possible - but it's not possible to garner that from the article.

Unless disagreeing with gender ideology or pointing out that males as a sex class represent a threat to women, is regarded as "abusive to staff". Which is the implication based on the information presented in the article.

forgotmyusername1 · 08/08/2023 10:23

There is being gender critical and there is being a twat. This individual seems to fall into the latter category

refusing to enter the building because there was a trans flag there is just ridiculous

She would have had the same treatment if she had said she wouldn't be treated by a black doctor ... none

She is transphobic not gender critical and it is not ok

Blinkinbloodyhayfever · 08/08/2023 10:24

You pay for treatment over there so they can obviously refuse customers who are disrespectful to their staff. Why would an argument over a flag at the door be the hill you literally choose to die on when you are accessing lifesaving treatment?

Beowulfa · 08/08/2023 10:26

NHS doctors treat all kinds of rude, annoying people, and those who think/vote differently from themselves. No idea how it works with the American health system though.

Yes a massive trans flag is sending a message to female patients, but there are less confrontational ways of approaching it.

forgotmyusername1 · 08/08/2023 10:26

In her letter, Barbera requested a telephone appointment to "discuss how I may access your medical care without walking under a banner that seeks to negate all I am".
However, the situation intensified this year after Barbera tried to leave a message for her doctor about blood test results. The receptionist urged her to make an appointment instead. Not wanting to add another medical appointment to her calendar, Barbera refused. The receptionist allegedly got frustrated and "hung up on" Barbera, according to Barbera's comments in the Reduxx report.
Barbera assumed the receptionist was being difficult because of her stance on the hospital's transgender flag display.
"I asked, guessing 'did I hurt the trans person's feelings?' And the receptionist took offense to the question, asking 'what did you say' slowly and with great emphasis," Barbera told Reduxx, adding that she ended the call after the comment.
Barbera alleged that a few weeks after her interaction with the receptionist, OHSU sent her correspondence alerting her that they would be dropping her medical care as of July 29.

Barbera is clearly an idiot

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 10:33

I'd very much like to hear the other side of this story.

I'd especially like to know how she's being denied cancer treatment when the clinic in question doesn't offer oncology services in the first place.

I would bet my life savings this situation is not entirely as it presented here.

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:39

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/08/2023 10:17

So she was denied cancer treatment at a place that doesn’t offer oncology services

right

The place in question is a primary care centre that is part of the Oregon Health and Science University, which includes cancer treatment. She has been excluded from all OHSU Family Medicine clinics.

MillicentBystandr · 08/08/2023 10:41

It’s a private Family medicine clinic so of course they have the right to discharge any patient that acts like Barbera did.

She filed a complaint saying she refused to attend appointments until the transgender banner was taken down saying I do not feel comfortable coming into Richmond with that enormous transgenderism banner hanging like a Nazi flag behind the reception desk and in her letter, Barbera requested a telephone appointment to discuss how I may access your medical care without walking under a banner that seeks to negate all I am

When she called demanding a telephone appointment with the doctor about blood test results, the receptionist said she had to book an in person appointment which she flat out refused to do so. Then she said did I hurt the trans person's feelings? which led to the receptionist ending the call.

MillicentBystandr · 08/08/2023 10:43

This is another reason to fight for our NHS. This is what privatisation leads to- healthcare gets downgraded from a human right to a luxury item.

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 10:43

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:39

The place in question is a primary care centre that is part of the Oregon Health and Science University, which includes cancer treatment. She has been excluded from all OHSU Family Medicine clinics.

Then why does the article keep referencing the Richmond clinic and her issues with the flag etc in that clinic? It does not offer cancer treatment.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/08/2023 10:44

“The place in question is a primary care centre that is part of the Oregon Health and Science University, which includes cancer treatment. She has been excluded from all OHSU Family Medicine clinics”

Not surprised, she sounds like very hard work.

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:49

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 10:43

Then why does the article keep referencing the Richmond clinic and her issues with the flag etc in that clinic? It does not offer cancer treatment.

Presumably the clinic was her gateway to treatment? If it is part of a group that includes a cancer care institute, then it's feasible that blood tests were handled at the clinic.

MillicentBystandr · 08/08/2023 10:56

It’s a different system in the US you can be dropped for tons of reasons.

My sister lives in Oregon (as does Barbera) and she was discharged from her obstetrician’s practice when 7 months pregnant because she decided she wanted a homebirth and they don’t support homebirth due to the limits of their medical malpractice insurance and the fact the hospital they have admitting privileges with prohibits their doctors from support job homebirth and would drop them. All my sister did was mention that she’d like a homebirth at a prenatal appointment (being British and used to it being an option), and that was enough for them to send her a letter discharging her. She literally had to find another provider for prenatal care and childbirth at 7 months pregnant.

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 10:56

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:49

Presumably the clinic was her gateway to treatment? If it is part of a group that includes a cancer care institute, then it's feasible that blood tests were handled at the clinic.

The reduxx article makes it clear that the Richmond clinic is her GP.

So she was discharged from her GPs surgery, and not in fact "denied cancer treatment" as per the OPs title.

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 11:00

MillicentBystandr · 08/08/2023 10:43

This is another reason to fight for our NHS. This is what privatisation leads to- healthcare gets downgraded from a human right to a luxury item.

Agreed - when I was unwell in the US with bad tonsillitis the care I received was absolutely excellent but the cost was eye-watering for the appointment and even more so for the antibiotics. I was glad of my health insurance. Not a system I would like to see replicated in the UK.