Woman denied cancer treatment for "transphobic" views and discharged from future care

[HootyMcBooby76]

Have we discussed this?
Apologies if so.
Woman Accuses Hospital of Denying Cancer Treatment Over Transphobic Comment (newsweek.com)

So the mantra is LITERALLY accept this ideology or be prepared to die.
And THEY have the gall to call us (insert word for a member of the far-right National Socialist German Workers' Party).

This is why healthcare and this ideology should be kept very far apart. Healthcare is no longer neutral and unbiased.
Believe or die.

you can be refused treatment in the uk for being abusive as well

Being removed from the register by a GPA GP might remove you from the patient register, for example because you move out of the practice area or are abusive to people at the practice. In most cases, the GP must have given you a warning and their reason for removing you from the register.

It's really really relevant that this is the US which has a completely different healthcare system. It's not the NHS. Both the healthcare provider and the woman in question have behaved badly, which has ended up with the woman being barred from using that provider. It would have been more sensible for her to choose a different provider before getting barred.

I don't think healthcare providers in general should be promoting specific ideologies, whatever they are. Massive flags aren't appropriate in that sort of setting in general even if they are ones that I would wholeheartedly support!

She was discharged from all Oregon Health and Science University facilities, not just the GP surgery.

The OHSU group includes breast cancer screening and treatment facilities.

If the hanging of a trans flag should not cause offence of a patient, would you feel the same of a practice hanging a Confederate flag causing offence to a black patient?

Rather than the confederate flag, perhaps a better comparison would be a party political flag - so in the US it could be a Republican or Democrat flag. Or a "pro-life" abortion pressure group's flag. Etc.

For an example of how someone with an MBE in services to LGBT people was treated when she asked for a female for her mammogram - in the UK, NHS - read this

https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2019/12/09/hospital-apologises-to-rape-victim-for-branding-her-request-for-same-sex-breast-screening-medic-as-transphobic/

Absolutely appalling.

Truly outrageous and shameful that an NHS Trust has compared a rape survivor wanting same-sex care to a racist wanting same-race care.

And this government does nothing about it.

She’s only a woman.
They would never have dared to do that to a TW.

@RattleRattle

I disagree, it's a good comparison because the ideology necessitates the destruction of women as a sex class

I agree with rattlerattle that the comparison of trans flag to confederate flag is off the mark.

I personally think it is toxic white feminism to blithely conflate slavery with trans ideology.

This is as much about access to private healthcare as it is about the right to express unpopular views. And it's as much about where does the balance lie between rights with regard to freedom of speech for the customer and freedom from harrassment for the employees

The French health care system is much better than the UK system and nothing like the US system.
The US system is by no means the only alternative to the NHS.

That was just a response to MillicentBystandr .

Not really the point of the thread I know.

As I read it, the comparison lay simply in the giving of offence.

The point was that both flags are offensive to the sense of being and equity of oppressed groups of people (women and African Americans), do comparisons have to be identical in every respect or in competition? Why is this one so poisonous to you?

Comparison is the fact of considering something similar or of equal quality to something else.

The things compared do not have to be identical, but they do have to be similar or of equal quality to each other to be a valid comparison.

There is nothing similar or of equal quality between the trans pride flag and the confederate flag. One represents a minority demographic that has not oppressed anyone and the other flag represents the white supremacist half a nation that fought a long and bloody civil war to keep Black people in slavery.

There is no comparison between the two, and attempts to compare, and thus conflate the two to push forth a feminist issue are classic white feminism appropriation of the atrocity of slavery and the oppression of Black people, including Black women.

It’s just as bad as the Nazi flag comments Barbera was making in her complaint. The valid concerns of women regarding single sex spaces while a serious feminist issue, is not at all comparable to the anti-semitism that led to the genocide of millions or the racism that led to centuries of race-based slavery.

There should be respect from all feminists for the scale of these historic atrocities. Comparisons to them should not be done lightly or as a way to cloak offended feelings in hyperbole.

This is such a fake click-baity title.

She wasn't at all let go for being transphobic, she was let go because she was extremely difficult and refused to attend appointments and rude to staff. And now she's crying about how the evil trans supporting hospital won't treat her because she's GC. Absolutely not true.

you can't spout all that vitriol and expect to have 0 consequences. She can go to a different hospital.

plus the hospital doesn't even do oncology?

what absolute nonsense

Genuine question, what vitriol did she actually spout? She affirmed that she believes in biological sex and was very uncomfortable with the trans flag in a healthcare setting.

And it has already been stated that she was banned from ALL the centres, not just the one she had a disagreement with, so in effect, stopping her from accessing cancer care at any of the centres.

She was banned from all Oregon Health and Science University centres. They’re not the only healthcare centres in town.

A quick google shows three other hospital networks in Portland/Beaverton Oregon area that also do oncology: Providence, Adventist, and Legacy. They accept most health insurance providers as well.

Speaking as someone who is having treatment for breast cancer now, I am so grateful for the kindness, patience and care shown by my breast care team, in the most frightening of circumstances, that frankly the entire team could dress in outfits from Widow Twanky to Willy Wonka, and I couldn't care less.

Their expertise, advice, empathy, and resilience when mine is faltering makes up for any minor discomfort or inconvenience.

Unless there is a huge back story, the lady concerned needs to focus on the essentials like quality of care. Nothing else really matters, especially not a flag.