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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Death threats against women's officer at Aberystwyth Students' Union

102 replies

fromorbit · 31/07/2023 02:00

Seems a massive scandal has been going on Aberystwyth. It seems that the Women's Officer was targeted by the local Pride group and received death threats and was forced out.
https://twitter.com/LloydCymru/status/1685575966331154433

Judging from Charlotte's twitter feed she doesn't even seem to be that gender critical. She just seems like a lefty women who knows her own mind.

The University sector in Wales is full of attacks on free speech. The Feminist society at Swansea University was closed down and there was a large protest at Swansea University over a Gender Critical meeting.

Cardiff University academics were targeted over free thinking more threats of violence:
https://freespeechunion.org/letter-to-jeremy-miles-ms-minister-for-education-and-welsh-language-concerning-a-campaign-of-violent-threats-and-harassment-against-several-of-our-members-who-are-all-academics-at-cardiff-universit/

If past events are anything to go by this may be ignored and swept under the carpet. The media seldom mention things in Wales. Obviously the Senedd don't care. However the clock is ticking, people are organising, reality inevitably bites.

Death threats against women's officer at Aberystwyth Students' Union
Death threats against women's officer at Aberystwyth Students' Union
Death threats against women's officer at Aberystwyth Students' Union
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BettyFilous · 31/07/2023 06:25

Why are the Police treating credible death threats as an internal matter for the University? A crime has been committed which requires investigation.

BettyFilous · 31/07/2023 06:29

If you’re reading Charlotte, I’m sorry you’ve had this experience and I think you were right to go public. 💐 Your peers voted you into this role and its a shame you have not been properly supported so you could take it up. You sound like you would have been a fantastic advocate for women at Aberystwyth. What a loss. 😞

Rightsraptor · 31/07/2023 07:55

Wow. Just awful.

I hope lots of students avail themselves of the opportunity to leave the SU and make plain their reasons.

Little despots.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 31/07/2023 08:07

BettyFilous · 31/07/2023 06:25

Why are the Police treating credible death threats as an internal matter for the University? A crime has been committed which requires investigation.

this

what the heck is going on?

if someone makes credible death threats they get their collar felt

a hallmark of a civilised society, surely?

borntobequiet · 31/07/2023 08:13

I hope the mainstream media pick this up.

StephanieSuperpowers · 31/07/2023 08:18

Horrific. These youthful despots need to be shown that they can't treat people like thus. Death threats! Appalling.

PriOn1 · 31/07/2023 08:18

Rightsraptor · 31/07/2023 07:55

Wow. Just awful.

I hope lots of students avail themselves of the opportunity to leave the SU and make plain their reasons.

Little despots.

A well publicised mass resignation might have some effect, but those in charge are obviously unable to regard this topic with any kind of objectivity and clearly have no real interest in representing any students, other than those within their clique.

duvet · 31/07/2023 09:37

This is awful!! Sorry if I've missed it but does it give any reason?

ArabeIIaScott · 31/07/2023 09:49

What is going on in Wales? It seems in some ways even worse than Scotland.

mrshoho · 31/07/2023 09:53

ArabeIIaScott · 31/07/2023 09:49

What is going on in Wales? It seems in some ways even worse than Scotland.

What is going on in our universities across the entire UK. This one is Wales but it seems this current culture is widespread. Bullying, threats of violence. Shaming and ostraciseing of women. Dens of despots.

RebelliousCow · 31/07/2023 10:08

ArabeIIaScott · 31/07/2023 09:49

What is going on in Wales? It seems in some ways even worse than Scotland.

Welsh nationalist sentiment has always been a bit darker and potentially more violent than in Scotland. Do you remember the campaign of burning down second homes and homes belonging to English people?

My sense that those countries with a colonial past, tied to Britain, who wish to show how independent and progressive they are are some of the most embracing of trans ideology. It represents a rebellion against the establishment.

Felix125 · 31/07/2023 10:09

BettyFilous · 31/07/2023 06:25

Why are the Police treating credible death threats as an internal matter for the University? A crime has been committed which requires investigation.

Educational institutions often have a policy which incidents like this will be dealt with internally in the first instance. I image this is similar to work place establishments.

Educational institutions often have incidents where one student makes a comment of "I'll kill you if you do that again" but won't routinely be subject to a police investigation if it can be dealt with at the school/college/university.

If the establishment or the individual want to escalate this further to the police, then they can have it reviewed.

Maybe different in Wales maybe - but that's how we do it.

FigRollsAlly · 31/07/2023 10:22

RebelliousCow · 31/07/2023 10:08

Welsh nationalist sentiment has always been a bit darker and potentially more violent than in Scotland. Do you remember the campaign of burning down second homes and homes belonging to English people?

My sense that those countries with a colonial past, tied to Britain, who wish to show how independent and progressive they are are some of the most embracing of trans ideology. It represents a rebellion against the establishment.

But don’t forget that it’s Labour who are in power in Wales and Welsh Labour are at least as dreadful as the SNP and Plaid Cymru when it comes to this sort of thing. Plaid really don’t have the sort of support in Wales that the SNP have enjoyed in Scotland.

RebelliousCow · 31/07/2023 10:26

FigRollsAlly · 31/07/2023 10:22

But don’t forget that it’s Labour who are in power in Wales and Welsh Labour are at least as dreadful as the SNP and Plaid Cymru when it comes to this sort of thing. Plaid really don’t have the sort of support in Wales that the SNP have enjoyed in Scotland.

True! But maybe that is why Welsh Labour is doing the same sort of posturing that is typical of the SNP?

Thingybob · 31/07/2023 10:28

If the establishment or the individual want to escalate this further to the police, then they can have it reviewed.

Surely that's the avenue that Charlotte should have pursued rather than put out the Twitter statement and make allegations against a named individual.

RebelliousCow · 31/07/2023 10:28

The history of coalmining in Wales and it being tied to the Labour movement will also be a motivating factor for the strength of the Labour Party in Wales?

Biscofffan · 31/07/2023 11:28

Wales has always been, primarily, a working class, Labour voting heartland - certainly in the mining and industrial areas. However, the Labour WG is totally captured/Stonewalled and also seems on a mission to make itself different from the government in London - similar in some ways to the SNP stance in Scotland. Ideas about gender are embedded in govt, in areas of education and pretty much everywhere else here, it feels.Plaid Cymru is similarly captured.
As a lifelong Socialist and Labour voter this is very painful. I admit I personally am afraid to express my views - and to see this oppressive belief system operating in our universities is appalling.
Labour are unlikely to be voted out and so have carte blanche to push all this stuff on us.
Depresses the hell out of me 😞

OldCrone · 31/07/2023 11:32

Thingybob · 31/07/2023 10:28

If the establishment or the individual want to escalate this further to the police, then they can have it reviewed.

Surely that's the avenue that Charlotte should have pursued rather than put out the Twitter statement and make allegations against a named individual.

She did report it to the police, and I can't see any individual mentioned by name in the statement in the OP.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 31/07/2023 11:37

Oh yes, that's clear. I missed it. The police left it to the university to deal with.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 31/07/2023 11:40

Yeah. The mainstream media need to pick this one up.

worrieddragon · 31/07/2023 11:46

Is there any public info on why she was targeted in this way? (I'm not suggesting she did anything to deserve it, nor that anyone ever could, just trying to understand what's happened here and how it started.)

Froodwithatowel · 31/07/2023 11:58

Biscofffan · 31/07/2023 11:28

Wales has always been, primarily, a working class, Labour voting heartland - certainly in the mining and industrial areas. However, the Labour WG is totally captured/Stonewalled and also seems on a mission to make itself different from the government in London - similar in some ways to the SNP stance in Scotland. Ideas about gender are embedded in govt, in areas of education and pretty much everywhere else here, it feels.Plaid Cymru is similarly captured.
As a lifelong Socialist and Labour voter this is very painful. I admit I personally am afraid to express my views - and to see this oppressive belief system operating in our universities is appalling.
Labour are unlikely to be voted out and so have carte blanche to push all this stuff on us.
Depresses the hell out of me 😞

This.

You need to separate the shiny political ivory tower gang from the actual voters. This might be all the rage in the wine bars and organic fair trade coffee bars of Cardiff, but try the blue haired anti-woman bull in the valleys and you won't get the time of day.

Rather like Scotland, sensible working class people have been held in hock by a political class promising emancipation. They've found themselves stuffed with a bunch of cliquey peculiar-viewed ultra liberals high on the smell of their own superiority, but much as the English are finding, they don't have much in the way of alternatives to vote for.