Death threats against women's officer at Aberystwyth Students' Union

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Seems a massive scandal has been going on Aberystwyth. It seems that the Women's Officer was targeted by the local Pride group and received death threats and was forced out.
https://twitter.com/LloydCymru/status/1685575966331154433

Judging from Charlotte's twitter feed she doesn't even seem to be that gender critical. She just seems like a lefty women who knows her own mind.

The University sector in Wales is full of attacks on free speech. The Feminist society at Swansea University was closed down and there was a large protest at Swansea University over a Gender Critical meeting.

Cardiff University academics were targeted over free thinking more threats of violence:
https://freespeechunion.org/letter-to-jeremy-miles-ms-minister-for-education-and-welsh-language-concerning-a-campaign-of-violent-threats-and-harassment-against-several-of-our-members-who-are-all-academics-at-cardiff-universit/

If past events are anything to go by this may be ignored and swept under the carpet. The media seldom mention things in Wales. Obviously the Senedd don't care. However the clock is ticking, people are organising, reality inevitably bites.

What triggered this? Is it simply because a woman is elected Women’s Officer?

If it wasn't in the statement it was in the accompanying tweets and it only took me a couple of clicks to find out that the person she was accusing, or at least one of the people, is a young man on the autistic spectrum.

So no I don't think it's fair for that individual to be named, shamed and found guilty via Twitter.

So we ignore that death threats were made?

I don't think they are being ignored - i think there is a mechanism in place in which they are dealt with. Either by the educational institution or by the police.

Such threats are wrong and should no be dismissed as being acceptable.

The complaint has been investigated by the police and the university and if Charlotte is still unhappy she could have done what was suggested earlier and asked the police to review the matter.

If after all that and she still doesn't feel the complaint was properly dealt with then yes she has every right to broadcast the details on any medium she chooses but naming a vulnerable adult on Twitter is not a reasonable approach.

Incidentally she hasn't shown any receipts for the 'death threats' just one I assume is the 'rape threat

I don't think they are being ignored - i think there is a mechanism in place in which they are dealt with. Either by the educational institution or by the police.

The police said the threats were a university matter (why they said this I do not understand).

The university did nothing.

Incidentally she hasn't shown any receipts for the 'death threats' just one I assume is the 'rape threat

Well then!

Such threats are wrong and should no be dismissed as being acceptable

Well I'm so glad to hear that. 🙄

Incidentally she hasn't shown any receipts for the 'death threats' just one I assume is the 'rape threat

Oh just a rape threat?

Have a look and see if you consider it a 'rape threat' or a clumsy, insensitive private message from an autistic, ex friend.

The complaint has been investigated by the police and the university and if Charlotte is still unhappy she could have done what was suggested earlier and asked the police to review the matter.

She reported the death threat, which she says was a credible threat, to the police. They left it up to the university to deal with. So no it hasn't been investigated by the police.

How, as a woman, would I tell the difference? incidentally, I don't know about your social circle, but mine tends not to make rape threats or anything that could be construed as such.

Why are you minimising Charlotte's experience? Do you know her?

I was just thinking it's easy to tell the men/violence apologists on here, isn't it?

No I don't know her or any of the others involved, I was just trying to piece together what her complaint was as the statement was rather confusing

You seem very invested in denying her personal account.

The silly girl's got it all wrong, of course.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain
The silly girl's got it all wrong, of course.

I don't think anyone is saying that.

Educational institutions often have a policy which incidents like this will be dealt with internally in the first instance. I imagine this is similar to work place establishments.

Educational institutions often have incidents where one student makes a comment of "I'll kill you if you do that again" but won't routinely be subject to a police investigation if it can be dealt with at the school/college/university.

If the establishment or the individual want to escalate this further to the police, then they can have it reviewed.

Maybe different in Wales maybe - but that's how we do it.

Such threats are wrong and should not be brushed over.

I've had loads of threats and malicious comments on other threads by posters. But they were dealt with by the MNHQ team - posts being deleted etc.

Thank-you for that post Felix

Educational institutions often have a policy which incidents like this will be dealt with internally in the first instance. I imagine this is similar to work place establishments.

Educational institutions and their staff and students are not somehow separated from the law.

Utter rubbish.

I'm not on twitter so I can't see any of those. Can you post a direct link to the tweets or some screenshots? Or have they been deleted?

This might be all the rage in the wine bars and organic fair trade coffee bars of Cardiff, but try the blue haired anti-woman bull in the valleys and you won't get the time of day.

Unfortunately this isn't true at all. I spent a long time living in Wales and have good friends in places like Rhydyfelin, Pill, Mountain Ash, Treorchy etc. They are all fully paid up TWAW. I know several (in my view) lesbians from the Valleys, all of whom have suffered a load of shit at the hands of men all their lives, who are all now identifying as trans men.

It blows my mind that this is the case, but it is.

I've had loads of threats and malicious comments on other threads by posters. But they were dealt with by the MNHQ team - posts being deleted etc

Were they death and rape threats?

YetAnotherSpartacus
Educational institutions and their staff and students are not somehow separated from the law.
Utter rubbish.

https://www.npcc.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/media/downloads/publications/publications-log/2020/when-to-call-the-police--guidance-for-schools-and-colleges.pdf

So if one student throws a paper plane at another student in a lesson - the educational institution can deal with this without the police getting involved and having to crime it.

They can also deal with fights etc at school.

Loads of threats, Felix.

Did ye, aye?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain

Some of them were death threats - or threats that I contract a certain condition and die. In fact I think one was a rape threat too.