“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!” Speech at Trans Pride London 8 July 2023

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Sarah Jane Baker, on the Trans Pride stage, saying

“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!”

to a cheering crowd :)

https://twitter.com/unpopulargenz/status/1677790606561628160

NB to MNHQ the video shows this being said. It is not just an allegation being shared.

I'm thinking that the more noise and the more attention this gets the better.

Let's have India Willoughby sat on BBC News defending a convicted kidnapper and torturer getting recalled back to prison for inviting violence against women...

The amount of people that should see that and have the moment a lot of us had... The "What? Hang on a minute.." Moment.. more peaks that a Toblerone factory.

So they're protesting that:

a) consequences for men shouting for the right to batter women who annoy them

and

b) failure to exempt TQ+ identified men from normal law (resisting political capture)

is transphobic.

Rightyho. Go for it guys, I'll hold your coats. I'll bring you coffee and biscuits even. Take that to the government and general public.

Also I highly doubt it's a 'trial' that the individual in question is attending this morning; it will be a hearing about breaching terms of parole.

"But your honour, I was only breaching them in order to incite a crowd to batter women who want equality and access instead of doing what I want! What reasonable person could have a problem with that?"

Just to add too: this pretty much ends the whole 'it's only the occasional bad apple nothing to do with us who wants to violently abuse and control women who resist their rights being stripped away' thing doesn't it?

Apparently the abusing and controlling of women is a right worth a protest for, and represents the lobby's aims and beliefs

Everyone take note please.

Agree (love the Toblerone comment 😂)

I see that they are also upset that this delicate flower will go to a male jail. I have a feeling that rather than reflect on their actions they will double down. The days of being treated pa's a sacred caste are coming to an end.

Statement from London Trans Pride copied and pasted from their FB:

'Slide 1: The first slide is a screenshot of a tweet from Suella Braverman who is a Conservative MP which reads “I’m glad the police have decided to investigate this incident at a Trans Pride Event, having initially closed it with no further action. I’m sure the police will consider the evidence carefully.” The tweet links an article to the Daily Mail entitled “Sarah Jane Baker: Trans activist who called for attacks on TERFs.”

Slide 2: The second slide is a poster which calls to free Sarah Jane Baker. There will be an emergency protest outside of the Westminster Magistrates Court from 10am on Friday 14th of July.

Slide 3 and 4: These slides contain a statement from London Trans+ Pride which reads “Sarah Jane Baker has been arrested for “incitement to violence”. A demonstration in solidarity with her is being held tomorrow at 10am outside the Magistrate's Court in Westminster during her hearing.

The case was initially closed and allegedly reopened by a member of the Conservative party. This creates a worrying precedent for transgender, intersex, non-binary, gender non-conforming and wider LGBTIQA+ communities, one in which we are fearful to speak out in anger against the violence we face nearly every day without fear of incarceration.

The backlash Sarah is experiencing from the state is an extreme example of the hate, oppression and harassment we are experiencing as a community day to day. What is the motivation of the Conservative government to get involved in this? What are they hoping to get out of this, what is their end goal?

Regardless of how you view Sarah and what she said, the precedent our government is setting is an alarming one which will give them even more power to enact harsher control and violence over our community in the future. It’s important we don’t get caught up in who the government has chosen to make an example out of, this is a tactic to further divide our powerful community and we need to stand together. If this can happen to Sarah, it can happen to any one of us.

Love, Rage and Solidarity,
London Trans+ Pride”'

This puts it front and centre.

The demand that TQ are more special than any other sort of person and exempt from normal law for mere mortals

The demand that those who do not serve TQ as told to are dehumaned and exempt from the protections of the law granted to obedient mere mortals.

Its all been tacit for a long time: we're at the point in a real situation where the government now need to either admit that yes, they're into this and let the pogroms roll, or do something to stand up and say no, not in the UK, this is mad.

That statement really is quite something. Quite well crafted bullshit.

Classic DARVO

That statement. Madder than a box of frogs.

Yes if you go about inciting people to beat women it WILL happen to you and it bloody well should do!

Yeah Tatchell trying to make out it’s just one rogue person not supported by the “community”.

But there’s been plenty of support by some pretty big twitter accounts including sisters uncut with their 70k followers.

https://twitter.com/SistersUncut/status/1679628271816769540

Keep going Trans+ pride and allies. You're showing the world.

Regardless of how you view Sarah and what she said, the precedent our government is setting is an alarming one which will give them even more power to enact harsher control and violence over our community in the future. It’s important we don’t get caught up in who the government has chosen to make an example out of, this is a tactic to further divide our powerful community and we need to stand together. If this can happen to Sarah, it can happen to any one of us.

This is hilarious. It’s like a logic vacuum 😂

Rage is not exclusive to TRAS. I've been pretty raging for years now - just so happens that I manage to channel it in a more determined, and also non violent, way.

Good Christ.

Sisters Uncut describe themselves thus: 'Feminist group taking direct action for domestic + sexual violence services since 2014.'

A feminist anti violence group protesting the rights of a violent man to threaten women?

We are in the upside down.
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Beating women is feminist

A logic vacuum is a great description. When I read it it felt like my brains were being sucked out of my head.

It is all rudimentary social justice warrior rhetoric - complete with obligatory 'Cruella Braverman' tropes.

I agree. But that would require the police to pull their finger out and do their jobs, so a bit of a big ask, really.

Travis Alabanza is standing up for Baker.

I'm not seeing many more well known supporters, though. Have they all gone shy?

It absolutely does.

And then the utterly mad statement from trans Pride 🤯🤯😱

what in the name of hell are they on?

A few bad Apples it aint.

My favourite line in that is, ’ If this can happen to Sarah, it can happen to any one of us.’

What , you’re ALL violent criminals out on licence? 😯

The 'one bad apple' meme is wearing extremely thin.

It is in the nature of trans activism to be hostile, intimidating, abusive, censorious and yes, violent. Every single demonstration has involved kicking, pushing, spitting, screaming, banging drums, storming buildings, damage to personal property, threats.......

^...they fail to deal with the vast majority of hate speech online or on person aimed at the Trans community."

Okaaaayy...

What a fact free whine there, from Travis. What an inversion of the actualite.

Ah, youve got to empathise. Sure any one could accidentally kidnap, torture, attempt to murder someone, remove their own genitals, and find themself onstage with a loudhailer and a cheering crowd and get carried away and say something out of character and make a hilarious joke calling for violence against feminists.