'Do you currently live in the gender you were given at birth?'

[Littlesprouts]

Saw an interesting vacancy with a big city council so had a nose at the application form.

A very muddled EDI section led to this word salad of an attempt to establish who might be doing the applying. The drop down options are completely baffling. Surely there has to be an easier way? It's put me right off.

I don't live in a gender so that's me fucked

I live in a house
I was born in a hospital many miles away
So no ?

Or if they are actually asking about gender
I was born into quite a gendered society which became less so for a while before regressing. I have refused to regress with it , so no

Wtf is 'living in a gender?

It is still a mystery how you live in a gender.
Seems to have a lot to do with clothes and haircuts.

I don’t live in a gender either. How can I?

There is an easier way...

Sex: male/female.

Delete as appropriate.

End of.

'Given at birth' is a disturbing development. Assigned getting a bit old hat was it?

Meaningless claptrap that will be very baffling for job applicants with limited literacy in English skills. Does the Plain English Campaign still exist? They could add this corker to their list of gobbledygook phrases.

I hope I never need to apply for a job again. It looks like the application forms are becoming like some kind of complex logic test - personally I live in a house, in a suburb, in a city, in a county, in the UK, in the middle of the sea, in Europe, in the world, in the universe... I'm fairly sure I wasn't given any of those genders at birth.

Is there a "I don't know" option?

Never mind a 'don't know' option, that needs a 'what the hell are you on about?' option.

I don't live in a gender. Surely you'd live as as gender, if indeed you believe in it.

I also wasn't given a gender at birth. The medical professionals (not actually sure who was there- emergency C-section) observed that I was female. This affected random bits of my upbringing, but not others.

😬

I agree, it's a totally meaningless question.

It's not just people with limited literacy skills who would struggle. I'm autistic, I have very 'black and white' thinking. I don't have a gender, or live in a gender, or even recognise gender and that question would have me completely baffled and it would prevent me from proceeding with the application.

Every day I feel as though the world has gone mad 😡

I don’t have a gender and the only thing I was given at birth is my name.

I wonder how many meetings it took for the HR folx to produce this question?

Exactly.

I listened in to the latest call from the recruitment team at the college my son has applied to attend in September (post 16 FE college).

He was asked for the third time what his sex a birth was and what sex he identifies as (he literally laughed and said male each time - really deep voice making it obvious in his mind and the second question just being laughable to him). They then went on to ask, and even she sounded embarrassed asking it and qualified it with, this may sound silly but, is there any possibility you could be pregnant?

Then obviously ethnicity, religion, sexuality etc which I've explained to him he can respond to with, 'prefer not to say', as they never explain that to kids. He chooses to use this generally but didn't for what sex were you born as, live as and could you be pregnant [ffs]

Do remember to tell your kids they're not obliged to answer any of these questions couched as 'equality monitoring' but just as possible to be used for discrimination and training you to identify as and declare yourself by your characteristics.

I’m laughing at asking a man if he could be pregnant.

A 16 year old boy at that Francesca - after she's already established he's male.

There is more and more of this crap creeping in online too. I got this question from an NHS dietician online consultation recently although she was at pains to emphasise that this is the kind of question I could be asked at any hospital now - yup it was the gender question. I firmly told her that I am a woman and that is the end of the conversation.

It’s awful - it forces gender critical people to either comply with their woo gender religion or not apply for jobs.
My hospital HR forced me to do the same - I am now on their systems as female gender with no sex recorded - so no recourse to the Equality Act as their records are incomplete.

Well it’s probably given him something to laugh about with his mates. This nonsense is abundant in material for teenage piss-taking.

Once every 28 days I hermmorage wildly leaving me in extraordinary pain at which time I'm expected to work as usual so I guess that makes me female? However it might be that I once bought a lipstick for 12.99 at superdrug so I must be a woman

I’m laughing at asking a man if he could be pregnant

Got that when I had my covid jab (67 at the time). I looked at the nurse and said 'I'm 67, what do YOU think?' and she snapped that she had to ask. Surely when they're filling in the forms it's not beyond their IT to exclude that question based on the age being input?

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain Perhaps they ask the same question of six-year-old boys? After all, you never know…

Could we stop the world? I want to get off! Seriously why are we putting up with this stuff? I've just been reading about banks shutting down customers accounts if they have views that don't match such things as gender woo, I mean just be a bank ,keep my money safe, pay my direct debits and offer assistance when/if I need it.