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Littlesprouts · 2023-07-08T07:04:48+00:00

Saw an interesting vacancy with a big city council so had a nose at the application form. A very muddled EDI section led to this word salad of an attempt to establish who might be doing the applying. The drop down options are completely baffling. Surely there has to be an easier way? It's put me right off.

Roste · 08/07/2023 20:17

No one bothered to give me a gender at birth, so I live in a house instead.

rigamortiz · 08/07/2023 20:20

This is nothing. My colleague had to answer questions for vetting to allow him access to parliamentary documents. He has to answer this question:

For your birth mother, a) what gender are they? B) what gender were they at birth? (Options of male/female).

Anyone know how your birth mother could have been male at her birth?

Alifelessweird · 08/07/2023 20:24

Clarice99 · 08/07/2023 08:32

I agree, it's a totally meaningless question.

It's not just people with limited literacy skills who would struggle. I'm autistic, I have very 'black and white' thinking. I don't have a gender, or live in a gender, or even recognise gender and that question would have me completely baffled and it would prevent me from proceeding with the application.

Every day I feel as though the world has gone mad 😡

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Quite. In falling over backwards to pander to a an aggressive, bullying minority of extreme gender ideologues, they are actually excluding a. Much wider group of other people. But that’s what EDI seems to be nowadays.

Idiots.

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JeandeServiette · 08/07/2023 20:25

SnotSnotSnottySnot · 08/07/2023 08:08

Wtf is 'living in a gender?

I think it's a bit like "living under the name of Sanders".

DuesToTheDirt · 08/07/2023 21:09

rigamortiz · 08/07/2023 20:20

This is nothing. My colleague had to answer questions for vetting to allow him access to parliamentary documents. He has to answer this question:

For your birth mother, a) what gender are they? B) what gender were they at birth? (Options of male/female).

Anyone know how your birth mother could have been male at her birth?

I would love to see some secret filming of people's reactions to that question!

And aside from it making no sense, what the hell is the point of it?

JanesLittleGirl · 08/07/2023 21:49

I'm sure that there was a song when I was little about living in a box. Is this the same?

RiseYpres · 08/07/2023 22:29

swallowedAfly · 08/07/2023 08:34

I listened in to the latest call from the recruitment team at the college my son has applied to attend in September (post 16 FE college).

He was asked for the third time what his sex a birth was and what sex he identifies as (he literally laughed and said male each time - really deep voice making it obvious in his mind and the second question just being laughable to him). They then went on to ask, and even she sounded embarrassed asking it and qualified it with, this may sound silly but, is there any possibility you could be pregnant?

Then obviously ethnicity, religion, sexuality etc which I've explained to him he can respond to with, 'prefer not to say', as they never explain that to kids. He chooses to use this generally but didn't for what sex were you born as, live as and could you be pregnant [ffs]

Do remember to tell your kids they're not obliged to answer any of these questions couched as 'equality monitoring' but just as possible to be used for discrimination and training you to identify as and declare yourself by your characteristics.

In 2019 my workplace (36 people) did a questionnaire for diversity. One of the options for 'what gender do you identify as' as 'prefer not to say. My colleague said she was choosing that and I thought she was barking.

Now I know she was right on the money.

2bazookas · 08/07/2023 22:45

Backstreets · 08/07/2023 10:14

What are the mortgages like, because I live in a flat and it’s getting pretty dear. I could live in a gender. Do haircut restrictions apply

I'm afraid those gender benders are pretty basic; it's just a tarpaulin stretched over bent branches.

http://coppicecrafts.blogspot.com/2015/08/a-hazel-bender.html

A Hazel Bender

Well it's been a while since my last post! It's been a busy year so far, I've been able to get out to quite a few coppice and craft related ...

http://coppicecrafts.blogspot.com/2015/08/a-hazel-bender.html

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/07/2023 22:48

I wasn't given a gender at birth. Not sure if that's because we were too poor or if it's Troubles related.

NotBadConsidering · 08/07/2023 22:50

JanesLittleGirl · 08/07/2023 21:49

I'm sure that there was a song when I was little about living in a box. Is this the same?

Was it a cardboard box?

2bazookas · 08/07/2023 22:51

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/07/2023 22:48

I wasn't given a gender at birth. Not sure if that's because we were too poor or if it's Troubles related.

Don't worry; apparently you can buy one later.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/07/2023 22:56

rigamortiz · 08/07/2023 20:20

This is nothing. My colleague had to answer questions for vetting to allow him access to parliamentary documents. He has to answer this question:

For your birth mother, a) what gender are they? B) what gender were they at birth? (Options of male/female).

Anyone know how your birth mother could have been male at her birth?

They really don't want clownfish to see something in those documents.

BodgerLovesMashedPotato · 09/07/2023 00:32

LodiDodi · 08/07/2023 08:41

Once every 28 days I hermmorage wildly leaving me in extraordinary pain at which time I'm expected to work as usual so I guess that makes me female? However it might be that I once bought a lipstick for 12.99 at superdrug so I must be a woman

Jeez, this is what gets me with this whole "debate "
As in, I don't identify wholly with the shitty periods I have each month.
That's not just what makes me a woman.
I identify as one too. Fuck reducing us all to body parts and that's all there apparently is
No. No it isn't.

literalviolence · 09/07/2023 00:47

BodgerLovesMashedPotato · 09/07/2023 00:32

Jeez, this is what gets me with this whole "debate "
As in, I don't identify wholly with the shitty periods I have each month.
That's not just what makes me a woman.
I identify as one too. Fuck reducing us all to body parts and that's all there apparently is
No. No it isn't.

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What else is there though other than biology? There's nothing which women have in common other than biology. Some people seem to find it very hard to accept that we are animals.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 00:58

Bodger has said before that she believes she has a "woman identity" that strangely she can't define.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 00:59

Not believing in a woman essence doesn't "reduce us to body parts"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 01:00

I am female. It doesn't presuppose anything at all about me other than that I was born into the female sex.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 01:01

I have in common with all women that we are female and there are many commonalities. I have nothing in common with males that believe themselves to be women.

BodgerLovesMashedPotato · 09/07/2023 01:04

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 00:59

Not believing in a woman essence doesn't "reduce us to body parts"

No, but thinking that is all there is to being a woman kind of does.
I'm.a woman not just because I bleed every month, it's not just stuff like that for me.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 01:05

What else is there to being a woman other than being a member of the female sex?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 01:06

Not all women and girls bleed every month. Only women and girls bleed every month.

OhcantthInkofaname · 09/07/2023 01:06

O M G. I wasn't assigned a gender at birth. I have two XX chromosomes which means I am female. That was decided when the X sperm met the X ova in my mother's body.

BodgerLovesMashedPotato · 09/07/2023 01:08

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 00:58

Bodger has said before that she believes she has a "woman identity" that strangely she can't define.

Can you define why you don't identify with, why you don't feel female?

BodgerLovesMashedPotato · 09/07/2023 01:09

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 01:06

Not all women and girls bleed every month. Only women and girls bleed every month.

Completely agree, but why should I deny trans men exist as a result?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2023 01:12

I do feel female, because I know what sex I am. That's the only feeling I have about it. How do you feel female?