Apparently middle-aged women ‘hold key to winning the next election’.

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/400763a6-18f6-11ee-8434-240b5ab9f9b1?shareToken=2738fe2529f30cbb2a569d3b44a75d6bb_

I really don't like the stereotyping. It feels so contemptuous. They don't see women as people at all. I don't think they see men as people either TBH, the only people who count as people for them are the politicians.

What an elitest, snobby, crass attitude to have.

And I don't know who to vote for.

Oh no, @Marypw, please give WEP the widest berth possible as they have no idea what a woman is either.

Nor does the WI, so I'd object to being defined by them - their federation chair, or some such, recently said being a woman was part biology and part life experience. She said this when challenged about a TW who graced the front cover of their magazine. The tw failed on both counts, but is still a woman, it seems.

The NT is as woke as all hell, too. I doubt they'd give us a satisfactory answer, despite using many of us as volunteers.

We're just invisible.

I haven’t read the article yet, but given the stereotypes they seem to be adopting (labour? lib dems?) actually don’t have any idea what a woman is.

The only parties fully supporting women’s rights appear to be the SDP (but not many candidates) and the communist party (who have quite correctly noticed that gender ideology is a very individualistic position to take, and rather at odds with a socialist philosophy)

What's unintentionally hilarious is that for parties that claims to be against 'bigotry' their election analysis appears to entirely consist of pretty bigoted stereotyping of women.

I read a very interesting article about a year ago about how the Labour party just assume loads of things about the electorate and this is why they keep getting things wrong (e.g. assuming all Brexiteers are just racist). Assumptions like this are real bigotry. It's DARVO in action.

Labour and the Lib Dems don't see women as fully intelligent humans though, that is clear.

has Annalise noticed the huge objections from women to the trans inclusive policy of the WI? And how is that going down?

Labour and the Lib Dems don't see women as fully intelligent humans though, that is clear.

The sneering is clear.

Jess Phillips in Parliament reading out the annual list of murdered women just HAD to include a male teenager, because she is such a virtue signalling hypocrite.

I am firmly in the target age range.

I don't read Take a Break and I'm not a WI member. Their stereotypes seem to be from about 20 years ago. Good luck with winning votes on that basis.

We are Generation-X. What on earth are they on about?

It was a recent revelation for me (because I was naive) that women's rights don't matter to the left in politics, either. It's clear even from the utter lack of interest all politicians demonstrate in women's lives.

They are not curious, they don't listen to women, and when they absolutely need to say something they resort to inane stereotypical comments of the types in this article.

But then I see that same attitude so often online. Women are truly seen as general support and cleaning crew and universal mothers not expected to have demands. Uninteresting in some very fundamental sense, perhaps because women don't riot, for instance.

Meanwhile a Labour voter writes this on the Guardian letters page:
'I despise “Stevenage woman”, the latest target voter for the party. I agree with her on nothing, yet I have to accept that wooing this archetype is Labour’s path to power. It sickens me.'
[[https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/02/in-order-to-win-labour-is-sacrificing-its-principles

It's uncanny how every time I begin to think maybe I can still vote Labour, if only because I really admire the Labour Women's Declaration, up pops someone to remind me what this party and its supporters really think of women my age. So thank you for that, Michael Gwilt of Shrewsbury, Shropshire

Well they got me wrong too. Middle aged woman, yes. I thought Take a Breakers was going on sabbatical (!!!), that puts me in my lane, but also I wouldn't join the WI unless hell froze over, maybe not even then, and I refuse to join the NT as well as they are a bunch of woke idiots. Next.

Tricky then to have a voice I'd think?

I think there is going to be an element of holding your nose and just getting it done with these elections. I think to not support 100% of a party's policies is pretty normal. The problem for women in this election of course is that labour's belief that men can be women is a pretty big issue that it feels difficult to get beyond.

BUT... for me, it comes down to the fact that if I have to compare how I think life will be under continued Tory rule or labour, I believe it will improve with Labour. There absolutely WILL be fights to be had and it might be that at the election after, they'll have to go again but, my hope is that a new party resets things, gives us a better base to work from so that when we have another election the old tories who got us into this total mess of the last few years have all been put to pasture.

I took a break from voting for the left, left wing politicians said that they did not want our votes because we won't chant TWAW!

Clearly Labour and Lib dems love their stereotypes. Which might go a little way to explain the sudden incredible loss of their powers of critical thought when it comes to womens' and childrens' rights. Thoroughly disillusioned former Labour voter here. I simply can't vote for either of them.
I'd like to see the Party Of Women winning seats across the UK. Especially in Islington!

Urgh, basically they’ve realised that women have got the vote, now they’re working out how to tell us what to think. Shame listening to us has never occurred to them.

If Kelly J Keen stands in my constituency I’d vote for her, otherwise it’s Tory for me

Which article are you all reading, it just takes me to the main page

I can’t get over Take-a-Break being middle-class!

Years ago, when I worked in retail, there were copies in the staff room to read at lunchtime. I learnt all about murders, gruesome flesh-rotting diseases, “love rats” and middle-aged women going on holiday to Marmaris, falling in love with a “Turkish toyboy” and lending him all their money.

Cue a sad-face photo captioned, “Me now”.

Yeah, that has to be the most patronising pile of shit I've seen in a while.

Of course they know what a woman is. Keir Starmer is a centrist. But he can't afford an internal fight with the trans supporters.
It is the Conservatives who were going to make self ID law.

So this is just a slag off Labour and Lib Dems thread and lets all vote Tory?
That will be a disaster for women. Have you seen what the Conservatives have done to state education? The NHS? Housing? Support for carers? Support for SEN children?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/10902274/trans-rapist-isla-bryson-victim-hate-crime/

KJK can make a Take a break article on this situation.

Angela Rayner can get some Chelsea nuns infringe of her and Suzie Hazard and make a WI calendar.

Layla Moran can borrow a dog and go for a walk in some fields.