Owen Jones guardian piece attacking Duffield

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In case anyone is interested ...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/30/lgbtq-labour-thatcher-section-28

It's basically some waffle around historic labour homophobia building up to the real point which is trying to get Rosie Duffield in trouble for saying men can't be mothers.

What a little twerp he is.

He is a little weasel that spouts crap.

No interest in reading it. Given Duffield’s tweet was only just over 24 hours ago that means he’s outrage-typed the article in a fury and his hatred of women and false arguments will no doubt be poured onto the page. It will be just like all his other women-hating articles.

All he's got is hate, it's how he makes his living. Just ignore him.

You can let the Readers’ Editor know what you think of his spiteful little article.

She didn't say anything homophobic, she said men aren't mothers.

Mother is an important term that is tied to child safeguarding.

Men are not mothers so she was just stating a fact.

This is why the T needs to be coupled with the LGB. Without drawing on the harms caused to lesbian and gay people the argument can't be made.

Owen needs to rewrite his article, leave out any reference to LGB and make his argument for why men can be mothers if that is something he feels strongly about.

Owen feels women should lose words and spaces and hand them over to men, fine. Make your point lad.

For god's sake when will will the LGB community wake up?
Their association with the T has cost them dearly in public opinion.

He does get us posting though. His mum must have given him some crayons.

Horrible little man. He must be deeply unhappy inside to be so full of hatred for women.

I'll not say what I wish she'd given him.

Ghastly little creep. I won't read his whiny drivel anymore. He blocked me on YouTube a couple of years ago when I compared him unfavourably with Rosie.

He is surprisingly sensitive for such a venomous toad.

Has his article been archived?

Given that a female MP was murdered by a constituent inspired by the online ranting which he’d been reading, and that female MPs are routinely subject to online threats, a columnist publicly making a target of a female MP on a topic which has already seen women physically attacked is something he needs to be held accountable for.

Apparently men like him think aggression against women is justifiable if it serves to ensure we do as he/they commands us to.

i find his writing really quite tedious. It’s like he wrote an article a few years ago and just constantly rehashes it by moving the odd sentence round here and there.

Pregnancy is a protected characteristic, Freddy at the Guardian kindly ensured with their court case that Mother remains the female that birthed the child.

The Guardian and OJ seem to be causing bad relations between protected characteristics, sex, beliefs and pregnancy which is against the equality act.

The equality act does not have an intersectionality top Trump of sexual orientation or gender reassignment being more equal than other protracted characteristics.

Vile man. He slides from homophobia to RD making a factual point (men aren't mothers) to link Rosie with homophobia. So glad I cancelled my Guardian subscription. I don't want a penny of my money going to this misogynist.

Grim misogynist who played a big part in making the guardian unreadable. Rosie is a feminist hero.

As said upthread - write in and complain/make the points.

He should remember what the 'L' stands for before he starts to talk in their name

This Owen Jones?

Is this piece in the print edition or is it just online clickbait?

Ah my favourite pipsqueak misogynist, of course he has something to say about this. He's getting on now and stepping into the ranty old man on social media role.

He spouts:

Last year, Scottish Labour joined the overwhelming majority of the Scottish parliament in voting to bring gender recognition laws in line with countries such as Ireland, Norway and Switzerland. But when the Tories voted to overturn Scottish democracy...

Whilst ignoring the fact that the SNP refused to allow amendments, which aimed to protect women and children from sexual predators. Very democratic of them, eh?

He's a dissimulating little shit.

I don’t read OJ but decided this time I would read what he was saying this time because Labour does not come across as anti LGBTQ+ to me. Hence, being curious about how he was going to criticise them. This paragraph caught my attention.

First, are transphobic hate crimes ‘soaring’? If so, that’s terrible. However, what does constitute or is a ‘hate crime’. Does it include both being physically assaulted and a tweet saying men aren’t mothers? Or is it just the latter?

Second, we hear somethings wrt to how the self ID laws are going for women and girls in Ireland, but does anyone know of what’s happening in Norway and Switzerland? We are beginning to hear about increasing concerns from such countries about the transgender medicalisation of young people, but are there concerns about the wider impact on women?

With transphobic hate crimes and the Tories targeting the trans community as they did gay people in the 1980s, Labour could offer courageous leadership. It has done the opposite. Last year, Scottish Labour joined the overwhelming majority of the Scottish parliament in voting to bring gender recognition laws in line with countries such as Ireland, Norway and Switzerland

Actually I find this quite heartening. I think he's worried that trans issues will be a vote loser for Labour and they will drop their support. Also it shows Sir Keir that no matter what they do for the TRAs it will never be enough. Surely someone at Labour will be smart enough to see this?

I hear the sound of a barrel being scraped