‘Bonus hole’

[bblackmirror]

So I can’t believe this is real but it seems to be.
What do we make of Jo’s cervical trust a cancer charity who has an LGBT inclusive language page on their website suggesting another word for a vagina is a bonus
hole!!

Absolutely awful.

Then the last patient was an op relating to someone's ovaries. Sex was "male"

Bloody hell.

Remember the days of ER when romano writing " not this one" on his arm when undergoing an amputation was funny.

Now it seems we all need to double and triple check the drs even know they have the right patient...thats gotta be creating so many opportunities for fuck ups .

@ArabeIIaScott but this list didn't say gender, it said sex, which suggests they're being used interchangeably?

Imagine arguing with a community of women that "bonus hole" is an acceptable term for a vagina we should respect 🙄No doubt our overlords have a long list of other porn related slurs that we're expected to accept. Can't wait to hear them.

Yep.

I just want to draw attention to the introductory paragraph of this 'guide' to language.

'Using the correct language when referring to someone’s gender identity is a simple and effective way to demonstrate support and recognition. If incorrect language is used without being corrected, it can cause someone to feel hurt or distressed. This may lead them to leave and to eventually seek support elsewhere. Remember, everyone makes mistakes from time to time. It’s important that you acknowledge them, correct yourself, learn from them, and move on. Dwelling on mistakes could make the person you are talking to feel more uncomfortable. '

There is a very strong implication that the terms listed (which, as NecessaryScene noted above, are not exhaustive and seem quite a specifically chosen list) are the correct terms.

Oh my word, this is utterly disgusting, reductive, offensive and reeks of porn oriented entitlement. Only a man would use this term. Or rather an agp. Have they taken this down as it didn't seem to be there when I looked. Can we rise up against this, yet another attack on women's dignity and safety? I'm just disgusted. This is what women are to bad men.

This terminology is aimed at transmen but what do transwomen call their vaginas & has their been terminology to match or is vagina accepted?

Ah. Here we are.

'Thank you to all the experts who checked the accuracy of this information, and the volunteers who shared their personal experience to help us develop it. A special thanks to Harris, Laurie, Nat and Seb for allowing us to share their stories.
This information was developed in response to research done by Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust in collaboration with Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust and 56 Dean Street.

• ReferencesBerner, AM et al (2020). A Survey of Attitudes to Cervical Cancer Screening in Trans Men and Non-binary People in the UK. Manuscript under review.
• Moseson, H., et al (2020). The Imperative for Transgender and Gender Nonbinary Inclusion. Obstetrics and Gynecology. 135(5). pp.1059-1068.
• Bouman, W. P., et al (2016). Language and trans health. International Journal of Transgenderism. 18(1). pp.1-6.

We write our information based on literature searches and expert review. For more information about the references we used, please contact [email protected]'

Note one of the people thanked is Walter Pierre Bouman. Who is of course part of WPATH, and involved in producing the new 'Standards of Care', which included 'Eunuch' as a gender.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4570831-the-times-today-on-wpath

This 'guide' was written by activists, not healthcare professionals.

Produced by the LGBT Foundation, which has or had Edward Lord as Trustee, iirc.

I mean, sorry, in some instances they are both activists and healthcare professionals.

https://sex-matters.org/posts/the-legal-system/edward-lord/

Male here - no it’s not. I’d never use such a term and I can’t imagine my male friends finding it acceptable either.

So much for teaching girls and women to respect their bodies. What a time to be alive, eh?

The next International Women’s Day should be renamed to what we are now viewed as.

International bleeders, gestators, bonus fuck hole owners Day.

And extreme trans activists vehemently deny the movement is driven by misogyny. And dare telling women objecting that we are reductive.

Bonus hole?🤮🤮🤮
Clearly lots of women being horrified doesn't count so long as the language affirms a few people who are disconnected from reality.

I'm losing sympathy at a rate of knots at the moment. I'm sick of my biology being denigrated, of hearing about women terrified of being sacked, of the fuckery with sports and prisons, of what is being done to children and young adults - you really don't know at 20 when you start 'T' and trash your fertility how you'll feel about infertility when you're 30.

I'm done. I'm so bloody angry that I just can't articulate it. I can't even speak out as I want to as I have a relative caught up in this shit and I don't want to cause a massive family rift.

AAAAAAARGH!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I'm an articulate woman and I'm reduced to screaming and emojis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7170432/

This paper is cited in the 'guide'.

'powerful community testimony highlights the harms of gender-exclusive language'

I have some powerful fucking community testimony right here that would like to tell you about the harms of dehumanising language, you gaslighting ghouls.

I've changed my mind after reading @ArabeIIaScott 's comment on the use of "correct" and "incorrect" in the introductory text of this document. Looks like it's being used to gaslight medical professionals into agreeing with these terms.

In what universe is vagina an offensive term but "bonus hole" isn't?

It is misogynist, objectifyjng and worryingly pornesque.

I'd be interested to know the origins of this guidance, was it 1. Written by a man, and 2. Are they in a paid role? How much of the charities' precious funds have been spent on this document? Heads need to seriously roll.

Get a bloody grip, it's nonsensical and unproressional to start changing medical terminology for something so grotesque as "bonus hole".

I'm surprised this hasn't blow up in the Daily mail.

rage is inevitable and a logical response.

But we can channel it into action.

Look at the list above - we have frequently seen names popping up again and again.

Keep your eyes on them.

Conclusion to that paper:

'Language reflects and reinforces our attitudes. When we evaluate our language, we examine more deeply the assumptions that frame our work. Changing the language we use and the environments in which we work is necessary for greater inclusion and quality, but it is not an all-encompassing solution. Rather, it is the first of many crucial steps needed to move us toward greater inclusivity, kindness, and, ultimately, higher quality clinical care and research for people of all genders.'

What attitude is 'bonus hole' reflecting and reinforcing? What assumptions would lead someone to use that word for a woman's body? Is it 'kind' to use a term like this?

Then why are only these words listed? There are an infinite variety of slang words for vaginas that women may use. What about those women?

The bonus hole is absolutely derived from porn. How can it not be.

Is it that these female people are so desperate to out men the male people they hang around with that they denigrate themselves so much to feel included? When the reality is that I know no adult males who respect women that would use that term.

Either way, this terminology is driven by self hatred. And people are affirming self hatred and expecting this to improve a person’s mental health. The inconsistencies are mind blowing.

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May be the case but I find it offensive on a leaflet ... or is my offense not important?

What if a medical profession also is uncomfortable using it?

It literally sounds like porn slang

I'm not sure where it's come from, Helleofabore. It seems it might be used for a gambling machine, a coin slot machine.

I can only presume the assumption is from the pov of a person assuming that the norm is to have one orifice (an anus) and that a transman has a 'bonus hole', in the context of a sexual encounter.

So the assumed originator is a gay man, whether that's a hypothetical or a real gay man.

Using terms to name women's bodies predicated on the sexual preference of imagined gay males is absurd.

See this is where acceptance of changing language to cater to a small minority apparently gets us.

Bonus Hole. Pretty sure a few hours on Pornhub will throw language up like that. But if I work with trans men in a medical context appear it's tough shit if it triggers me because I must comply with their non-reality

I'm wondering what the hell will be next