Disney went woke now they're going broke

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Woke Disney loses $900Million in recent box office flops https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12236445/Woke-Disney-loses-900Million-recent-box-office-flops-liberal-agenda-turns-movie-goers.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton
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Not RTFT yet but an overlooked factor is the parks.

They have become almost unaffordable and with the new queue system are attempting to wring every possible $ out of people.

You used to be able to turn up at whichever park you wanted when on a multi park ticket and hop between parks but now every visit has to be planned in advance with rides booked and requires meticulous organising which takes some of the spontaneity and fun out of things.

People have become wise, footfall has stalled and the parks are no longer seen as value for money. Parks are a huge part of Disney’s income, plus nobody wants to go and have gender woo, pride merch and BLM shoved in their faces.

Spider-Verse is a good example of a diverse superhero movie doing well, because it’s got a good story, engaging heroes and it looks like no other animated films of its generation. My kids aren’t superhero fans and they both loved it.

I didn’t really see the point of any of the live action Disney remakes as they don’t seem to bring anything new to the stories (apart from Malificent).

I haven’t had a chance to see Guardians yet, I was thinking more in terms of Black Adam, the latest Dr Strange and also some
of the most recent Marvel Disney Plus series being of patchy quality and performing poorly.

Disney has managed to run Star Wars into the ground which is kind of shocking.

In what sense? Yes the sequel films were a bit shit (i like to pretend they didn't happen), as was the book of boba fett. But the sequel films made oodles of money, and tbh the various pre Disney Star Wars installments were of very variable quality. And Rogue One, Rebels, The Mandalorian and Andor are very very good, and apparently Jedi Survivor is a brilliant game. There are more Star Wars series, games and films in the pipeline, so the franchise seems fairly healthy to me.

Apart from The Jungle Book I haven’t bothered with any of the “live action” remakes of the renaissance-era films. Nothing to do with the casting (apart from Emma Watson as Belle, I mean WTF?!), I just love the originals and I don’t see why they keep rehashing something that was so great in the first place.

Call it personal taste but no 3 just didn't do it for me the way 1&2 did, guess its just 1 of those things

I don't think it's that anyone objects to black or gay characters it's that this has become so obviously a 'policy' decision it feels like every film is preaching something and most people want to be entertained by Disney not preached to.

I think even if you're fine with the message there's a feeling of: who is Disney a huge corporation to preach to me and why should I pay to be preached at by a corporation?

People are sick of it, from all the corporations.

Just sell us beer and make a good kids film we don't need you to tell us what we should think.

Snow white & the 7 Dwarves.

"At the beginning of the story, a queen sits sewing at an open window during a winter snowfall when she pricks her finger with her needle, causing three drops of red blood to drip onto the freshly fallen white snow on the black windowsill. Then she says to herself, "How I wish that I had a daughter that had skin as white as snow, lips as red as blood and hair as black as ebony..."

Disney has decided to remake it with Rachel Zegler who definitely does not have skin white as snow.
They didn't even think about how offensive the story might be for those with dwarfism although now apparently they are going to get consultants in after being called on it.

She is a beautiful actress, wasted in this stupid exercise in EDI willy waving by Disney, but she isn't Snow White & they aren't lightening her skin to make her look like she is.

If you change the tale to "Nothing Like She Was Supposed To Be & the 7 Ethnically Diverse Individuals", who will almost certainly have no explainable reason for being together (one will probably be a woman & another one will have to suddenly announce their sexual preferences or their pronouns even if it has nothing to do with the story so has to be crowbarred in there), what is the point of saying it's a remake?

I personally this has been overblown. I was an absolutely huge cinema-going, probably going once a week throughout the year but then the pandemic came along and I got out of the habit. I have only been twice in the last 12 months! Nothing to do with the films themselves, I just don't mind waiting for them to be streamed on Disney plus etc now. This seems to apply to most people I know, we've all got used to watching things via streaming.

Disney has decided to remake it with Rachel Zegler who definitely does not have skin white as snow.

No-one, of any ethnicity, literally has 'skin as white as snow' without make-up.

Yes casting a black actress as the little mermaid is a good thing but to then set the movie in the Caribbean during the time of slavery but showing none of that instead having a happy relationships between the races basically airbrushes out slavery and the harms it caused so not great

That's the dumbest take on The Little Mermaid I've ever read. It's not supposed to be hard-hitting journalism.

@musixa well you're right, but I think we can acknowledge that different people have different skin tones, and just like you wouldn't cast Tom Cruise in a biopic of Barack Obama, you probably shouldn't cast a olive skinned woman in the character famously known for being very pale with red lips and black hair.

I do agree that Disney offerings recently have been disappointing at best. I wanted to like Soul, but it was so boring. Luca - meh, it was ok. Didn't like Turning Red much, and Strange Worlds should have been my favourite but I fell asleep during it. I don't want to watch any of the live action remakes.

I think they've forgotten there doesn't actually have to be a message at the end of every story. And if there is, then they should word harder to make them better, and not just shoehorn in the latest cause du jour.

Complaining about a black Little Mermaid is on a par with complaining about a female Doctor Who 🙄

Unfortunately the female Doctor Who was shit. Why not increase female representation by making new female roles, rather than shoe-horning women into shows by turning existing male characters female?

Conflating their current financial woes with the so-called 'wokeness' is quite the stretch.

Unless you're the kind of person who watches Fox News and is offended by a mixed race mermaid 🙄

Beauty standards based on the old Victorian consumptive chic, where white skin, pink cheeks and a thin body looked great but sadly you were dying of TB.

We watched Lightyear at the cinema. Neither DS nor I felt preached to about homosexuality. I saw Little Mermaid alone, I didn't feel preached to about racial inclusivity.

If someone's mere presence makes someone feel preached to, they need to check their bias

Go see guardians, it's awesome. Take a tissue, I cried. For like the whole last quarter.

Maybe.

But some people have different minds from your mind.

In my mind Cinderella is the one in the blue dress from the Ladybird book. For my DDs she has a pink dress - and she’s black. That’s the version they grew up with.

that's a really good point MossCow

In theory as a feminist I suppose I should like the "feisty" Disney Little Mermaid but the original Hans Andersen story is not about adventure it's about total self-sacrifice to a hopeless love. The Little Mermaid is brave and beautiful but she gives up everything including her own life and she doesn't even get her man at the end. It's nearly as un-feminist as you can get (OK, "Patient Griselda" is worse) but it's still a beautiful story and you can take a lesson from it about how self-destructive romantic love can be, if you want to.

Even in the first film Disney spoilt the story in pursuit of political correctness so personally I don't care what else they do to it.

Apart from The Jungle Book I haven’t bothered with any of the “live action” remakes of the renaissance-era films

the jungle book one is the best

Using 'woke' negatively - often done by a rightwing Daily Mail reader.

It is not a hill you will die on. It is a film, not terrain.
/drax

It's one of those rare "perfect" films in that there's nothing I can think of changing that would make it better.

I'm also old enough that when I saw the, well, I don't want to spoil it, but a certain group of kids if you know what I mean, I pretty much just lost it at that point.

Cast were superb.

And to keep it on topic, whilst some called the movie "woke" it really isn't because it's not trying to take away from anybody. Chris Pine's character isn't mocked because he's White or male. And Holga isn't better than other people because she's a woman, she's just better because she's Holga (and not without her flaws).

And yet I'm left wing, have only ever voted Labour and have never bought the Mail in my life.

Curious

Oooh but is the a Christmas special arguably better than them both?

No 😳

not at all

though the addition of kevin bacon is not to be sniffed at