Disney went woke now they're going broke

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Woke Disney loses $900Million in recent box office flops https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12236445/Woke-Disney-loses-900Million-recent-box-office-flops-liberal-agenda-turns-movie-goers.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton
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Some posters are just not people that have much of an intellectual engagement with films. There are lots of people who don't care even if the plot makes sense so long as there is some kind of cool or fun spectacle.

But it's well established in any kind of speculative or fantasy writing that in order to have fantastic elements accepted, the details have to be solid. That's what anchors the fantasy.

It's not unnatural that seeing a bunch of people different ethnicity who are supposed to have the same father would raise questions, because we all know how genetics works. I think the idea of a daughter for every ocean is rather nice, but the implication seems to be he probably has a different wife in each ocean as well. After all, the story is meant to be understood as "real" rather than just some kind of metaphor.

It would be an interesting insight into the mermaid social structure if he had multiple wives, and could add an interesting twist to the story of Ariel - maybe she thought the prince would be able to have several wives too?!

It is difficult though not to think that there is a virtue signaling desire to just shoehorn in as many different racial categories as possible. As in the awful Wrinkle In Time movie which seemed to want to construct a family with as many ethnicity as possible, for no reason and with no connection to the story.

The reason people see a link with this stuff is because gender ideology is a sub-set of identity politics, and they are based on the same principles. Disney, and other companies, support GI because they support Id pol.

Long term, we won't get rid of gender ideology without addressing id politics more generally.

My childhood was Barbie, Sindy, Lady Penelope and cowboys and Indians complete with cap guns.

When my children came along all those toys were frowned upon in some circles , for encouraging stereotypes and violence.

Children today have Barbie and other dolls who imo are more sexualised. nerf guns in all sizes, Paint ball guns.

Children have no preconceptions. It's either a great movie that engages their imagination or a yawn fest.

She's a red headed girl in the remake though.

And why on earth is it always redheads who are replaced?

The mermaid in the live remake is a red head

I think the actress looked very like original Ariel (aside from the fact that it was a cartoon!). It was just so dull the whole thing.

There were some dubious arguments, on release, about how mermaids would be extremely pale, but that didn't really wash. Especially as they seem to spend a good deal of time on the surface in these stories.

I think the issue isn't the wokeness, it's the forced feminism. Men and women should have an equal screen time, no denying that... but many of the recent movies depict a Mary Sue female lead at the expense of established male characters.

Virtually all of the Phase 4 marvel movies/series belittled the male characters that were fan favourites.
-Loki got replaced with a better female Loki
-Hawkeye was replaced with his daughter
-Captain Marvel was instantly better than Thor
-Wanda was instantly better than Doctor Strange
-She-Hulk was instantly better than Hulk
-Jane Foster was instantly a better Thor
-Black Panther is now an all-female cast (ok, forgivable here)
-Iron Man is getting replaced with a better girl (Ironheart)
-Starlord is constantly getting our down by Nebula, Gamora and Mantis
-and Shang-Chi was largely overshadowed by Katy.

Marvel is essentially all-female now. The agenda is undeniable.

Then the last three Star Wars all became the Rey show, basically instantly better than seasoned characters within five minutes of finding out she was a force user.

Peter Pan and Wendy is focusing more on Wendy, reducing Peter to an inept joke.

The Little Mermaid is no longer being saved by a prince.

Indiana Jones 5 has Indy being replaced by Phoebe Waller-Bridge, reducing him to an old nobody...

Female leads, just like male leads need to be grown, and learn from their mistakes, just like male leads... Buffy, Sarah Connor, Ripley, Jane way, Katniss, Daenerys etc. These women proved their worth and earned respect. These were amazingly empowering women! But Disney isn't doing that now... women are better simply because they are women, and it is being done at the expense of men with crass put-downs, or 'just because'.

I think that replacing of so many male characters, and the weird way they do it, is considered to be very much part of the "woke" mindset in film. It's a huge part of what a lot of people are talking about when they complain about this stuff.

As well as the general treatment of white male characters as basically jokes, or evil.

The recent Velma is a pretty good example of all of it. The sex in that case remained the same, though there was a fair bit of meaningless race-switching plus some lgbtq+ inclusion. They had to totally change Shaggy's personality as a result, because you can't have the black guy be a stoner. Fred was left as the butt of all the (lame) jokes, a morally questionable buffoon.

It's pretty much the archetype of what people mean when they complain about woke tv. It doesn't even resemble Scooby Doo, really.

It's the sameness of it all that starts to feel so tiresome after a while. You feel like you're just watching the same show or film again and again.

A lot of children's stuff is repetitive though on TV too. How many times have you had to read a particular book because the children wanted it yet again