Disney went woke now they're going broke

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Woke Disney loses $900Million in recent box office flops https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12236445/Woke-Disney-loses-900Million-recent-box-office-flops-liberal-agenda-turns-movie-goers.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton
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I guess a mermaid could be any color? I mean, they're not actually real creatures.

Not "woke," exactly, but I do think that cinema has become less interesting in the last decade or so. Very derivative, too many remakes, too many live action versions of things (yawn)...

It's not brilliant but it isn't a loss, and the actual box office receipts show that people weren't staying away because it was 'woke'. So even if it isn't a brilliant return it does totally contradict the OP and the rather misleading article headline. Daily Wail headline, misleading? Surely not.

It's more likely that people are growing tired of remakes in general.

I'm not sure who you think I am but I've not name changed in more than a year so your wrong.

For those asking what I find funny about this I will try to explain.
Yes casting a black actress as the little mermaid is a good thing but to then set the movie in the Caribbean during the time of slavery but showing none of that instead having a happy relationships between the races basically airbrushes out slavery and the harms it caused so not great.
Same sex kissing in lightyear again no issue with that.
Not sure why they put guardians in but no3 is just dire and really let nos 1&2 down.
As for my issue with Disney it's the way they have gone on shoving gi into so many kids programs and content, plus everything that @Brokendaughter said so much more eloquently than I could

I guess a mermaid could be any color? I mean, they're not actually real creatures.

https://ourtimepress.com/discovering-the-myth-and-folklore-of-black-mermaids/

There are many folk tales of Black mermaids going back centuries - I have seen some suggestions it would have been better to do some of those less well known myths and stories rather than re-work Hans Christian Anderson’s Danish tale but Hollywood is ultra conservative at the minute wanting built in audiences so it's remakes and book/computer game adaptations or franchises.

Someone mentioned Peter Pan. Critical Drinker had a short commentary on it and had some things to say about how Wendy is treated differently in the modern one. It touches on some of the difference between "Woke" and simply having different people in roles.

For me, it depends very much on what it is. Like the Dungeons and Dragons movie - very varied cast in terms of skin colours, sexualities, and roles people take. Don't care one bit - great movie and it makes sense in that setting which is not a medieval nor Earth equivalent world. And I think most felt the same. Contrast with the Lord of the Rings TV series where men are sidelined or evil, Galadriel is vastly better than everybody else and you get Black elves suddenly which doesn't really make much sense. When the same person is fine the former but not with the latter then dismissing something as racism or sexism is clearly too simplistic.

She still does have red hair.

Did you mean Ariel is a little WHITE girl in your mind and your imagination refuses to accommodate anything diverging from that?

Guardians 3 is much better than Guardians 2. That is a hill I will die on.

We will have to agree to disagree on that 1 I'm afraid. Baby groot rocks

For me, it depends very much on what it is. Like the Dungeons and Dragons movie - very varied cast in terms of skin colours, sexualities, and roles people take. Don't care one bit - great movie and it makes sense in that setting which is not a medieval nor Earth equivalent world

Dungeons and Dragons is a rare example of a really fantastic film in last few years that we've seen in cinema.

Complaining about a black Little Mermaid is on a par with complaining about a female Doctor Who 🙄

Anyone who has a problem with increased visibility of diverse races or gay characters in films is a racist, homophobic twat. “Colourblind casting” can be problematic if changing the race of a real, known individual or a character where their race/background is a defining factor of their story or where it’s wildly anachronistic, but where the characters and/or setting are fictional…what’s the issue?

I’m no fan of trans ideology and the lies spun to children and vulnerable adults in its name, but I’m not sure what’s to be gained by equating that with increasing opportunities for actors of colour and making gay couples in a story commonplace.

(That’s not to say that I don’t find recent Disney output flat, boring and derivative but that’s nothing to do with “woke” issues.)

I somehow don't think Disney of all companies will go broke. Just an inkling. I don't read the Mail though so clearly I'm not as... well-informed.

'Woke' is the slur and rallying cry of fascists, and the Daily Mail is their Völkischer Beobachter. Quite a lot of its filth gets on here.

That depends on what the anticipated returns for it were and what other expenses were riding on its success. A relatively modest return could still be a ‘failure’ especially if the anticipated income was needed to cover the cost of the next project. Lots of companies go bust because of cash flow not because they fail to make a profit on their core product.

@LaBefana

having 5’2” waifs beat up 200 lbs guys, isn’t reality,

Because the rest of it is totally belivable.

For me the biggest crime of The Little Mermaid is she didn’t die and turn to sea foam at the end as her prince married his beloved. I think that would have made a much better and more complex movie.

I'm not a fan of the live actions because, like a lot of the CGI they have a feeling of mass production and cheapness to them.

Disney lost its way pre renaissance and I think the Don Bluth studio played no small part in them upping their game. Some of the best animation in history was produced in the nineties because they had to compete with Land Before Time, Anastasia etc and these movies had soul.

Now Disney effectively has no competitors and their movies are no longer an artform. They don't have the Disney magic and use mostly division and gimmicks to create buzz.

I'd love to see a return to the old animation style, but wonder if those skills have been passed on to be able to do so.

Anyone who has a problem with increased visibility of diverse races or gay characters in films is a racist, homophobic twat.

Misogynistic name calling however is perfectly fine

Strange world was AWFUL. I've absolutely nothing against casting to represent society and to be inclusive of all sexualities etc but it's got to be done in the right way and if it's valid within the story. Shoe horning random relationships, various ethnicities and situations like it's a bingo card is a prime example of how NOT to do it. All of the best story writers succeed because they write about what they know, what they know intimately other wise you get "she boobed boobily down the stairs. ". If all. you know is a very insular little village in 1859 then it makes zero sense to force a lesbian couple, one black person in a wheel chair and a blind Asian vicar into the script. And these days it ALL feels like a box ticking exercise, with very little thought to the nuances or historical accuracies. In strange world it was a movie aimed at kids so the boy crush on another boy shouldn't have even been a main part of the story. It's just not realistic and came across as totally fake. I'm watching UP! right now and it's just a lovely story that I can watch again and again. It doesn't matter it's all fiction, same with Moana, Toy Story etc.

It’s such reductive nonsense, that woke/broke stuff.

It’s great to see representation of our diverse culture in films. Take the smash hit Hamilton… “America now telling the story of America then” as Lin Manuel Miranda put it. Racially diverse casts, same sex relationships, people with disabilities on screen are all positive changes to a cultural narrative that was predominantly telling stories of white men.

That’s got bugger all to do with the financial problems facing the many competing streaming services.

Racially diverse casts, same sex relationships, people with disabilities on screen are all positive changes to a cultural narrative that was predominantly telling stories of white men

But they often cease to be truthful retellings and instead seek to re-write history. Like the transing of women who fought against the expectations of their day.

Complaining about a black Little Mermaid is on a par with complaining about a female Doctor Who 🙄

I'm not personally complaining because I haven't seen it - didn't fancy another re-make.

I was quite excited initially about female doctor who - Missy was fantastic villain and Dr Ruth was bloody good despite a poor script and minor role - and personally I love how mad* *Sacha Dhawan Master was.

What I came to loath was the poor writing - and increasingly Jodie Whittaker playing the Dr as some ditzy forgettable aren't I daft character because she was female because women can't be competent and have gravitas.

I can't be the only one as audience figure did dropped but I'm really hoping Russell T Davies coming back means it gets back to what it was - and I'm fairly excited about Ncuti Gatwa taking on the role eventually - I think after Tennant comes back for a bit first.

But if you raise how poor Dr Who got you ca get labeled as toxic or bigoted. Poor writing does seem to like to hide behind issues rather than accept it's the problem.

Meh, Disney are slowly killing off great films and the cinema full stop. I couldn't care less about the messages I'm pissed off that barely anything makes it to the big screen for longer than 3 minutes theee days.

(I know it's not just them and cinemas can be £ but as a life long Star Wars fan they have turned my childhood into a cash cow)

It's depressing that the highlight is f new movie released this year is yet more Marvel Tosh.

> I'll get my coat ...

Agree with triple

i think it was badly written, and i hated her braces 🤔

very much looking forward to Ncuti Gatwa (and a return of the Tennant/Tate double act)