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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Davina McCall - GC?

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PronounsBaby · 25/06/2023 00:21

Did anyone notice she mentioned the witch trials of jk Rowling was well balanced? It seems like that's quite a controversial thing to say seeing as anything remotely positive about jk must make you a transphobe.... All her work on menopause must mean she knows what a women is?

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lifeissweet · 25/06/2023 00:25

I think this is toe in the water time.

She hasn't actually stated any sort of position. I think she's always been very firmly TWAW in the past. She is not daft, though, she must know that the rainbow children are going to have a tantrum. She still has plausible deniability, though.

I'll be interested to see how it pans out. Even if she says nothing else, it will be a step forward if she just doesn't delete it or apologise.

lifeissweet · 25/06/2023 00:26

I'm interested to see, though, because Rev Richard Coles said the same a couple of months back and got a heap of 'this is so disappointing' tweets from TRAs. It rarely got worse than that, though.

They tend to go harder on women...

JogOn123 · 25/06/2023 00:28

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PronounsBaby · 25/06/2023 00:29

I saw it earlier today and am surprised it's still up!

Good on her

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Moonandstarzz · 25/06/2023 00:30

C'mon Davina! Fact over fiction!

lifeissweet · 25/06/2023 00:32

It's been weird so far.
Loads and loads of 'thank you. Well done. Don't back down' and 'they are going to come for you!'

One 'get in the bin' and two 'for fuck's sake'
And that's it.

It sort of makes the GC supporters look a bit mental!

(I'm sure that will change - and who knows what her DMs are going to look like)

Itsaknotat · 25/06/2023 00:34

Davina seems to very much be supportive of trans women are women. Publicly at least. Whether she believes this privately or not who knows.

PronounsBaby · 25/06/2023 00:41

I guess she can be twaw and support jkr... although not sure that's allowed....

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Moonandstarzz · 25/06/2023 00:42

Itsaknotat · 25/06/2023 00:34

Davina seems to very much be supportive of trans women are women. Publicly at least. Whether she believes this privately or not who knows.

Well now that the tide is turning I'm sure plenty of celebs will read the room rather quickly... The more the merrier!

Rainbowshit · 25/06/2023 00:43

Yassss Davina!! Don't back down!!

lifeissweet · 25/06/2023 00:48

Ron, here, is not wrong. They have had a stupendously terrible pride month.

Oh dear. What a shame.

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Moonandstarzz · 25/06/2023 00:58

@lifeissweet I've just started a post about how badly supported yesterday's pride parades were. Pride wasn't really acknowledged at all this month in my part if the world but I thought the march would have been but it was a damp squib, very poor showing..

ashitghost · 25/06/2023 01:37

Rev Richard Coles is friends with Julie Bindel. At least on Facebook. For a few years I’ve assumed he is terfy.

WarriorN · 25/06/2023 08:02

Itsaknotat · 25/06/2023 00:34

Davina seems to very much be supportive of trans women are women. Publicly at least. Whether she believes this privately or not who knows.

There's no way she can have done all the work on menopause and not realised that the massive increase of trans identified girls and women, and medicalisation, esp PBs, isn't a shit show waiting to happen.

She's chosen where to post her comment carefully, on a Buck Angel post. A transsexual. Who agrees with JK. we will ignore the porn star element though that gets Lib fem ticks

Woman's hour had a piece on recently about some research into whether girls recovering from anorexia should be given body identical hrt to protect their long term bone health.

We are going to have a generation of women who thought they were men with severe osteoporosis in a couple of decades. From What Richie Heron describes, also men.

WarriorN · 25/06/2023 08:03

Moonandstarzz · 25/06/2023 00:58

@lifeissweet I've just started a post about how badly supported yesterday's pride parades were. Pride wasn't really acknowledged at all this month in my part if the world but I thought the march would have been but it was a damp squib, very poor showing..

The far north of England is sometimes a decade behind the rest of the country; it's gone full alphabet soup up here.

WarriorN · 25/06/2023 08:04

She's been tweeting all night since that post and it's still there.

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NutellaEllaElla · 25/06/2023 08:26

I hope she doesn't back down and promise to educate herself. I really think if she lets the TRA cries die down (if/when they come) then it'll blow over. Enough people have done the groundwork for her to tough it out.

lifeissweet · 25/06/2023 08:53

She has picked up a couple of transphobe accusations now, but it's not that terrible.

Maybe that will embolden her to a tentative and uncontroversial opinion of her own at some stage?

(Then full TERF with any luck - like when Megyn Kelly peaked!)

Let's hope...

Itsaknotat · 25/06/2023 08:56

She's hinted several times on various podcasts that the word woman includes trans women.

lifeissweet · 25/06/2023 09:01

There is, of course, the possibility that she just liked the podcast. That she liked how balanced it was (it actually was) and sees it as a first step to the sort of moderate middle ground we are constantly told we need to find.

She'll find out that's a unicorn now. She'll find out exactly why we can't compromise.

I think she is quite 'be kind', but she also probably realises this has all gone too far to preserve women's rights.

Maybe she thinks it is possible to hold both positions?

This may be a long peaking journey.

RollerGirl7 · 25/06/2023 09:50

I can't see it on her twitter feed. Taken down now or am I being dense?

lifeissweet · 25/06/2023 09:53

It's because it was a reply to Buck Angel's tweet and not her own tweet, if you see what I mean, @RollerGirl7

Which is kind of a double whammy. Lots of TRAs will be very upset that she is engaging with Buck - even without the content of her reply

WarriorN · 25/06/2023 14:54

Aw, big brother love ❤️

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Davina McCall - GC?
Davina McCall - GC?