Four found dead in property

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The police are not looking for anyone else, we know how this generally unfolds.

RIP Dawid, Maja and Monika. Sorry society has failed yet another family, I can't see an end to this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-65937795

@jannier - family annihilators are almost always men. This is the feminism board. If you want to bleat about women doing it too, can you take it elsewhere please?

We're mourning the loss of yet more women and children at the hands of a violent man.

I think reporting rules should reflect which number murdered woman it is so far in a year. So for example “Woman Murder 78 of 2023” followed by the details. Make the public constantly aware of how many it is per year.

It's overwhelmingly men.

It is worth saying that a huge number of really terrible crimes, notably family annihilation and terrorism are preceded by domestic violence. If we treated domestic violence far more seriously, some of these crimes could be prevented. A watch list for DV, rather than saying stupid things online would be great.

www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-study-shows-link-between-domestic-violence-radicalisation-risk-2021-11-25/

You can bet if it had been the woman we would surely know as it would be shouted about in all the media so posters like some on here could use it as evidence that “ women do it too” Every day we are faced with the true enormity of male violence, and it is really shocking to me that we are not all talking about this terrible all pervading menace in societies everywhere. We know and we must speak out about who is doing what to whom.

According to the Counting Dead Women Twitter account, 47 women have been killed by men so far this year.

I need to see if I can find actual data to back up my thoughts / casual observation from Google but whilst mothers do kill their children they tend not to also kill themselves / are unsuccessful in doing so. Obviously there are incidences where they also kill themselves but not as often.

As usual my first thought was that another man has killed his family. 9 times out of 10 it seems to be correct.

Are you trying to make this tragedy about immigration?
How despicable!

Yes, it's so disrespectful

How am I blaming women? But are you actually saying all men are genetically disposed to murder? In which case giving birth to a son must be horrendous you must spend your time wondering what crime he will commit. Parenting must play a role in some people's propensity to commit murders and crimes

Family annihilators are not lunatics who cannot control themselves. They control themselves in other circumstances.

Family annihilators are controlling men who kill their families to exercise the ultimate control over them, by deciding when and how they die.

I have lovely grandsons who I hope are being brought up to respect women and to love and protect their families, should they have them. Sadly they are also being partly raised by an abusive man, so who the hell knows what will happen. The family court had a chance to stop the cycle of abuse, but they weren't interested and are fine with a toxic man manipulating his children. 😡

Let's be clear it is statistically much rarer for women to annihilate their families and their reasons for doing so are usually very different to why men do it. No point in trying to be "fair" and pretending otherwise.

I'm no man hater. I have a lovely, caring husband who helped our daughter escape her abuser, so please don't throw that my way either.

There was this horrific case in Tennessee the other day too. It wasn't exactly a surprise when I learned that my suspicion about which family member was the murderer, proved to be correct.

nypost.com/2023/06/16/gary-barnett-posed-in-friday-the-13th-mask-and-posted-about-breakup-with-wife-before-murder-suicide/

But until you hear that as a fact don't you think you should wait or just mourn the loss of all. For example the children may have a genetic condition that neither parent could live with

Yes. Not to mention that almost all terrorist incidents are preceded by dv.

https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/joan-smith/home-grown/9781787476066/

Are you a coroner or Judge / jury?
Coroners determine if a death is suicide. Judges / juries decide if a death is murder. At best, the police could say it was an unlawful killing and unexplained death.

Almost alway men, actually. As with all violent crimes. 59/71 studied here:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/family-killers
Please do not come on feminist threads spouting this nonsense NAMALT is such a fucking boring response.

Also the vast majority of terrorism is preceded by DV. Stopping DV and acting on rehabilitating these men would prevent a lot of misery. But that would involve accepting men do this, and they do it because they can and want to.

Even before reading the article, I could tell how this story would go.

RIP Monika, Maja and Dawid, I hope whatever occurred happened quickly and they didn't suffer.

My daughter's ex wouldn't admit to being an abuser (narcissism), so cafcass said he couldn't be put him on a course for abusers. What do we do with men like that?

Terrible English there.

I meant couldn't be put on a course

What evidence do you have to say that “society” is at fault?

Society as a whole, whatever the circumstances these individuals have been failed whether that's the police, mental health services whatever. Do you truly believe that these things happen in a vacuum?

I am just saying wait don't make things worse for the relatives and judge before you know just because a man is involved. We all know the statistics but there are exceptions. We live in a world now where judgement is made Purley on gender