Girl Sues Hospital for Removing Her Breasts at Age 13

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This is in the US, I hope she wins, this could be the beginning of the end for this gender ideology driven medical abuse over there:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/girl-sues-hospital-for-removing-her-breasts-at-age-13-post_5335492.html

I recall one dr online saying that if girls changed their minds and wanted breasts later they could always have implants! And they could have any size they wanted!

Implants can't feed your babies.

Implants aren't a sensitive erogenous zone.

Implants are purely cosmetic.

All the sources I've seen say that castrati normally grew exceptionally tall, as the lack of testosterone meant that the his bone-joints did not harden in the normal manner. This also meant that their ribs grew longer than usual, giving them unrivalled lung power and breath capacity.

The practice was supposedly banned in 1861 but the last castrato singer didn't die until 1922.

No because 1) the parents are normally told the child will commit suicide if they don’t have surgery
2) Quite often the child is alienated from the parents by the cult that is trans activism . James Esses ( I so admire him) has even found infiltration on child line . Look him up and support his court case if possible

there are very few parents supporting this, it is mostly that they are accused of being transphobic and over ruled .

Excellent post

Of course they should get a pay out . We won’t allow a 16 year old decide if they can handle alcohol but they can agree to life changing surgery and drugs ? Really ?

I know a lot of people don’t like Jordan Peterson but if you can bear to watch his interview with Chloe Cole it explains a lot about the reason girls get into this mindset and her case is quite heartbreaking.

and it’s only recently I have seen the full extent of what the “ bottom surgery “ for girls and boys entails , and it is scary . It’s like they were all one big paid experiment .

Is that on Netflix?

The Fox Killer of the ‘Good’ Law Project recently declared that barristers should not take cases he perceived as ‘anti trans’. Undermining the fundamental principle of Justice and legal representation and opening up barristers who represent ‘difficult’ clients to condemnation by their profession. That is the atmosphere we are talking about here.

I would support any barrister who takes on representation of even the most heinous criminal and does their very best to get that criminal off or reduce their sentence. The alternative is unthinkable.

It’s all about the money . That’s so scary , they are selling a lie.

Their child did transition. The child is in a long standing relationship. They have friends. They are doing a post graduate degree. They are happpy.

So still in the hot house affirming higher education environment where this hug box holds sway.

I wonder at 40 when the real world catches up and the people around them don't perform the same function if this happiness will still be there.

Hormones and surgery changes their lives forever, but the places they will find that act like a university are miniscule to non existent.

My mind just can't compute...13????? Don't even think my breasts were that fully developed at 13.

I posted Lily Maynard article on FB many years ago asking if the mum was really brave for holding out and not affirming right away - trans and LGBT friends gave me all same answer 'the kid will grow up and hate her mum, conversion therapy never worked, you just know who you are'

Can you see what is wrong with this widely accepted logic?

How old were they?

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I follow billboard Chris , what a brave man , he has been physically attacked many times just for saying you can’t change sex and children should not be given drugs or surgery and he films chats with people as he goes round the world . Recently he did one with a woman in Canada and honestly I don’t think logic even entered her head she came back with the most ridiculous answers to his arguments for example saying gender surgery was no worse than ear piercing and it was not bad that these young people may never achieve orgasm because sex is usually bad anyway , I honestly think there is brainwashing going on . Especially in schools , so watch out .

It's not even a proper experiment. A proper experiment involves careful assigning of individuals to treatment groups; careful calculation and recording of surgery performed and drugs administrated; it involves carefully recording and examining the results; it involves (in medical instances) long term follow-up to see how the patients are affected - is the treatment beneficial/ malign/ neutral? It looks at every aspect - physical, emotional, mental, intellectual.

For almost all of the children who have been experimented upon there are no records. The clinics don't even keep numbers as I understand it, never mind having medical follow-up to determine the physical and mental health of the patients.

There has just been a production line which has mass-produced damaged children. And once they leave the "factory" there is no customer service, no money back guarantee, no replacement parts for any faulty components. Not even an instruction and care manual.

The child and their family are on their own. God help them.

So far as I know, the young person has not had a single regret a decade later.

Who goes around telling family members that they regret the fact their sexual function has been ruined?

That's why I've been interested in people who are trans for 30+ years who are well beyond initial phase of euphoria, wearing personality as costume, hugboxing from their communities during transition journeys. Harder to find them online. Corinna Cohn is interesting very well-spoken individual (but she/he is in more gendercritical online spaces)

This isn’t the other side of the story, there is a huge difference in the treatment received.

They had many, many sessions with a pyschologist before any treatment at all could be started. It was not a matter of turning up and saying that they were a different gender.

The girl in the newspaper article alleged did not receive adequate care or counselling and was instead rushed into transitioning, a decision she has come to bitterly regret.

According to the suit, doctors at the Permanente Medical Group and Kaiser Foundation Hospitals rushed her on to cross-sex hormones and a double mastectomy without properly assessing her mental health problems.

Her evaluations lasted only 30 minutes and 75 minutes, records show.

This isn’t anti-trans. It’s about children receiving the same standard of care across the board and yes, not being expected to make huge decisions affecting their entire future before they reach an age where they can understand the consequences.

She was 13.

13!

If a 13 year old wants a tattoo, you say no.

If a 13 year old wants to drive a car, you say no.

If a 13 year old wants to buy cigarettes, you say no.

If a 13 year old wants IVF, you say no.

If a 13 year old wants to leave school and get a job/join the circus, you say no.

If a 13 year old wants to buy a whisky in a pub, you say no.

It doesn't matter how determined they are. The law is that they are not old enough to make that decision.

Several of these things have much less serious consequences than irreversible major surgery. So you say no. The next surgeon, and the next, and the next should say no.

Have you heard of the hippocratic oath? That’s why they should be sued to fuck.

The Fox Killer of the ‘Good’ Law Project recently declared that barristers should not take cases he perceived as ‘anti trans’. Undermining the fundamental principle of Justice and legal representation and opening up barristers who represent ‘difficult’ clients to condemnation by their profession. That is the atmosphere we are talking about here

I find it so disturbing the number of adults so keen to advocate for this. Who benefits from a cohort of young people above the age of consent who have the bodies of pre pubescent children?

Does anyone think this is actually an accident?

@Violasaremyfavourite so if a girl is not transgender, but she hates her breasts - thinks they’re not big enough - wants a boob job at age 13/14/15, would you just be like yeah sure here’s a few grand go get your tits augmented?

If your child with a perfectly normal nose looked in the mirror and said “I hate it! It’s big and ugly”, would you be like sure kid, let’s just pop to the doctor and get you a nose job?

when you see women with filler all in their face, huge drawn on eyebrows, butt implants, do you think Oohhh how lovely they must feel comfortable with themselves now they’ve had all that work done? Or do you think wow, she must have some insecurities to have done all that to herself?

because truly being comfortable with yourself means BEING YOURSELF. Right??! Or am I the crazy one?

ps. I grew up in a female oriented childhood and questioned my gender (back in the 90s so entirely unprompted). As I aged and did psychological reflection and grew comfortable with myself I realised it was a combination of not liking traditional “girl stuff”, bullying and therefore not being comfortable in my own skin.

why are we lopping off kids’ body parts when we should be encouraging a society free of restrictive gender norms?! And therefore enabling people to be happy in their own skin.

We know that the majority of these children are mentally vulnerable. Children in care, autistic, those with eating disorders, anxiety, self harmers, bereaved children, those with previous trauma. Yet society is standing back watching the medical profession literally experiment on them. Activists in sexual politics working hand in hand with medics lacking in ethics.

We must stop this and hopefully she'll win her case.

I also think that being trans means joining a sort of exclusive club. It's perceived by some to be a badge of honour to be different, to go against the perceived norms of society, to be a bit of a rebel. I almost think that some are getting a sort of a kick by becoming friends with a person who is trans, after all they don't have to take any risks but can appear to be rebellious. And young people tend to like a bit of rebellion. When I was young we just labelled ourselves Trotskyists or Marxists, now people are trans or non binary.

Several of these things have much less serious consequences than irreversible major surgery. So you say no. The next surgeon, and the next, and the next should say no.

And this is why I have no qualms about states in the USA enacting bans and other governmental jurisdictions around the world taking action. There will always be a doctor willing to do whatever a patient pleases, and medical organisations are too weak to stop them and they have too much support from idiots who believe in them. So there has to be real consequences of doing this to children.

@dancingsands what emoji do you use for the children who DO regret their transition? Or the adults? Read the story in the OP or go and look up TulipR on Twitter, and see if you think a cutesy little 'heart' emoji still strikes the right note.