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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Safe spaces for women (and anyone else who says they’re a woman) help by completing Leeds survey

99 replies

Ouchiebum · 08/06/2023 17:16

Leeds council are consulting on creating safe spaces for women. But not just for women. For anyone who identifies as a woman ie men and women, therefore giving people who are most likely to harm women ie men access to the space designed to keep them safe.

I am really annoyed about this survey and am asking as many of you as possible to complete it to point out that women needs safe spaces based on sex. Not on how people feel.
https://surveys.leeds.gov.uk/s/OWA2023/?dm_i=7IRL,39I6,19VMAF,C5JW,1

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BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 08/06/2023 17:26

Well, well, well.

I invite anyone who's not yet looked at the survey to play a little game. One of the questions (relating to how safe people feel in the city centre at different times of day) is:

Do you feel any of your personal characteristics particularly impact the experience you have? If so, which ones?

Guess what's missing.

Giggorata · 08/06/2023 17:26

Duly done.

Tauranga · 08/06/2023 17:31

That is bonkers...what is it about your personal characteristics that make you afraid....but being female is not there?

littlbrowndog · 08/06/2023 17:45

Done. Seems they don’t much like that word woman or girls. Until last page

IamRoyFuckingKent · 08/06/2023 17:47

What a load of fucking bullshit. I've completed it and pointed out they've missed the word woman out. Twats

Kucinghitam · 08/06/2023 17:52

Done.

Ouchiebum · 08/06/2023 17:57

Thank you all. I’m glad you are feeling my rage as well. It has really really annoyed me. I am sick of this utter nonsense

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Pooterlie · 08/06/2023 18:04

Done. What nonsense.

LizzieSiddal · 08/06/2023 18:10

Thanks for posting. Oh I had fun filling in that. 😂

Glenthebattleostrich · 08/06/2023 18:11

I live near Leeds and refuse to go there because of negative experiences. I've filled in the survey and pointed out that they are a disgrace.

SiobhanSharpe · 08/06/2023 18:12

Ouchiebum · 08/06/2023 17:16

Leeds council are consulting on creating safe spaces for women. But not just for women. For anyone who identifies as a woman ie men and women, therefore giving people who are most likely to harm women ie men access to the space designed to keep them safe.

I am really annoyed about this survey and am asking as many of you as possible to complete it to point out that women needs safe spaces based on sex. Not on how people feel.
https://surveys.leeds.gov.uk/s/OWA2023/?dm_i=7IRL,39I6,19VMAF,C5JW,1

Yep. Spotted and said no to all the other characteristics but emphasised it is about SEX.

MaydinEssex · 08/06/2023 18:15

The survey doesn't open for me, I'd definitely do the survey if I could get the link to work.

Igmum · 08/06/2023 18:15

Done. A survey about women and they don't include sex, a legally protected characteristic. FFS. I would ask what on earth is wrong with these people but I think we all know the answer to that.

YinYogi · 08/06/2023 18:19

Done!

A survey about women and for women that doesn’t include sex as a characteristic is fucking stupid and I’ve told them so,

Alliswell3 · 08/06/2023 18:22

That is outrageous. I have filled it in and made my point

RhymesWithOrange · 08/06/2023 18:26

Done. I wrote rather a lot in the comments section ☺️

SideWonder · 08/06/2023 18:40

Done.

I don't live in Leeds but I am often there on the weekend.

BaronMunchausen · 08/06/2023 19:10

I'd point out that it's men (or 'people assigned male at birth') that present a risk to women's safety based on physical biology rather than gender (bigger, stronger, more predatory etc); that this biology isn't changed and the risk is not mitigated by transition or identity (TW actually over-represented among serious sex offenders); and that including AMABs within women's safe spaces sabotages their safety.

Catiette · 08/06/2023 19:30

Emailed them, with a focus on how flawed the survey design is.

Catiette · 08/06/2023 19:33

(In the hope that may get through to them at least!)

Hoppinggreen · 08/06/2023 19:36

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 08/06/2023 17:26

Well, well, well.

I invite anyone who's not yet looked at the survey to play a little game. One of the questions (relating to how safe people feel in the city centre at different times of day) is:

Do you feel any of your personal characteristics particularly impact the experience you have? If so, which ones?

Guess what's missing.

I clicked “other” and put “my sex”

Crumbcatcher · 08/06/2023 20:13

Do you think the survey was really 'created by women'?

Lilyargin · 08/06/2023 20:16

Done.

Meerkitkat · 08/06/2023 20:18

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 08/06/2023 17:26

Well, well, well.

I invite anyone who's not yet looked at the survey to play a little game. One of the questions (relating to how safe people feel in the city centre at different times of day) is:

Do you feel any of your personal characteristics particularly impact the experience you have? If so, which ones?

Guess what's missing.

Yes I made sure to point this out. Twice 😆

PriOn1 · 08/06/2023 21:04

Crumbcatcher · 08/06/2023 20:13

Do you think the survey was really 'created by women'?

Could easily have been. Supporting the erasure of women is not a uniquely masculine trait.