Update from CF

[DerekFaker]

This sounds horrendous. How can the police do this.

And yes, it was exactly as we predicted in the previous thread.

Should a certain police officer pop up in this thread, please try not to get drawn into protracted, repetitive arguments with him. Please!

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1666337645427847169?t=LWaRDewlk7r_8pVTdkE_tw&s=19

Troon is a pleasant affluent seaside town in West Scotland, you can golf and fish.

As with most things, it's all about context.

Merlin, is there anything wrong with people being devout. I know religious Muslims, Jews and Christians who are good people. A couple of the most giving people I have known have been Jain, and Hindu.

I personally struggle with some of the beliefs within world religions, and believe me Islam is not alway great on homosexuality. However your snidely snarky superiority is getting to me. What belief structure do you hold that makes you so think you are so inherently better than others.

Only when you put 'we just don't know' on every post when you're the only one on the thread that doesn't know and can't be bothered to read the back story. Then I or others will remind you after every post that actually a lot of people have been following this and do know and that a friend of the person whose back story you couldn't be bothered to check out is actually on the thread and 100% does know 😶

But yeah this as well!

I'm gonna be honest for some reason when I've seen it on tweets as I'm skimming I've assumed it was football related.

Merlin's a TRA, and that trumps any other SJW cause you can think of.

Merlin's visa simply says TWAW, on one side and 'Trans Rights are Human Rights', on t'other.

Any questions raised, or criticism levied, is simply batted away and declared 'transphobic'.

I reckon @DerekFaker has changed washing powder, fabric conditioner, flea spray, something because they are flocking to DFs threads

It comes from the forum Something Awful. Users called themselves goons, and trans users called themselves trans goons, then shortened it.

As Merlin has now posted stuff on a thread on a site with Known t*fs and transphobes, where tr*n has been written, is he now also a transphobe?

Sorry if I’ve misgendered you Merlin, I don’t know your preferred pronouns.

I wonder if xis username is a reference to getting the snip

I don't have an account on there.

Also thanks for the misgendering(again).

Yep, this thread has noticeably brought them out of the woodwork.

As for the derogatory term used to describe trans people, I've never even heard of it.

I'd point out that TERF is a derogatory term too. And as for 'bleeder ..., or reducing even the words 'woman' and 'feminism' to taboo, dirty words, it's very clear what's driving that particular agenda. Under the guise of protecting one small group of people, there's a fully-armed attack mode being deployed against the only majority that has ever been treated as a minority.

To pick up on a further point upthread, I couldn't give a monkey's if CF is not a feminist, or whether or not all her views happen to chime with mine. She's a woman, and she's being persecuted by aggressive MRAs. We need to choose which issue is currently more urgent. The UK isn't the USA; our right-wing politics are not the same as the US alt right (which the lacking-in-nuance TRAs are constantly and wrongly trying to align with UK feminists. More forced teaming, as if they hadn't got through with LGBT). In Europe, despite the fiasco that is Brexit, issues like capital punishment and denial of the right to abortion are not coming back. They are no longer part of the fabric of our politics - those days are gone.

The assault against free speech and erasure of women are the most serious and urgent issues - not just feminist issues but fundamental human rights ones - I've ever witnessed during my lifetime. To me there are clear ethical choices to make, and these are not comfortable if you happen to stand on the pro-quality rather than pro-quantity side of the 'life' debate. But it's a case of deciding which, in the UK's specific current circumstances, are the most pressing.

For me there is no question. Today it's CF, JKR and Stock. Tomorrow it could be any of us. What's happening to CF is unconscionable: there can be no reason or excuse for it, particularly when it's very evident whose specific vendetta has made her the target.

I don't know Merlin's gender, or anyone else's gender. If that leads to me misgendering any of you, I'm as sorry as I possibly can be about that.

I'm non-gender. You can genderise me how you like because I don't have some need for you to care about my (non-)gender.

and gender is a lot of specious bollocks that can get itself in the bin, in my opinion

CF seems to be like catnip to our monitors.

it's all pushing the thread up the Trending section, bumpity bump bump bump.

Yeah. Like sharks smelling blood.

And that's obvs the attraction. Putting heretical women in their place, and if they can intimidate or torment them into the bargain, so much the better.

The DARVO is transparent, as is the way they get their kicks.

Merlin, I meant THIS THREAD. And I’ve already apologised for the possibility that using the pronouns appropriate to your name, which is male gendered, if my understanding of the abstract concept that is gender is correct, is offensive to you, as an actual person.

THIS ⬆

MNHQ mopping up Freda's trolling pretty swiftly, must be a lot of eyes on this thread!

Indeed.

However sometimes I have mixed feelings about this.

I think sometimes the awful TRA posts ought to be left to stand.

There is something really quite telling about the mindset of a person to come to a feminist board and deliberately be insulting and provocative.

I'd also question just how many deletions one poster can get before the ban hammer comes out?

BezMills · Today 12:27
We can't assume that just because a person is female and associated with a church that they can't be a mass-murdering terrorist with a basement full of Sarin gas and who is secretly married to Kim Jong Il and Vladimir Putin.
FFS

And I have not said that Caroline is any of these things. You seem to only have a 'one extreme or the other' view point. There is a huge grey area in the middle. And it is quite possible that a person can be violent, a threat and female and be in this middle ground.

All I am saying is - we can't just assume.

Brefugee
Women who are being clearly abused (mentally and physically) by a partner, with documented abuse going on for ages.....

DVPO's can be authorised at the first point of contact by the reporting person. So there doesn't have to be a history at all - it can the first occasion.

And we still don't know what Caroline was arrested for. There is no such offence as 'hurty words' so there must be a substantive offence which is being investigated.

The court have not dismissed this order today - they have allowed an adjournment for Caroline's defence to be put forward. If there was nothing to substantiate the grounds for the order, the court could have dismissed it - but they haven't.

So lets not assume at this stage as we all really don't know this ins & outs of the case.

Disclaimer - I am using 'we' to mean me and most others on here. I acknowledge that some on here will know or have been told the details of the complaint and I am aware that Caroline may have access to this thread or indeed people close to her. I also acknowledge that the reporting person, OIC and direct witnesses may also read the thread and hence will not be included in the term 'we'.

There are 22 pages in this thread so somebody else has probably already made this point... But you shouldn't have to prove that you're not a particular poster on KiwiFarms. It should be on them to prove that she is. Innocent until proven guilty. If you reverse that then a country goes to a bad place very quickly.

This is clearly vindictive.

And FWIW, I don't think someone should be prosecuted for what they say on KiwiFarms even it had been her. Assuming it's not literal libel and is just an opinion.

And we still don't know what Caroline was arrested for.

Yes we do. October last year for malicious communications. AKA hurty words on the internet. This was widely reported at the time, including all the Farrow household’s devices being seized.

Many also know who the complainant is, and know of the numerous other cases this person has brought over the years.

There have been civil claims involved as well.