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Update from CF

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DerekFaker · 07/06/2023 08:28

This sounds horrendous. How can the police do this.

And yes, it was exactly as we predicted in the previous thread.

Should a certain police officer pop up in this thread, please try not to get drawn into protracted, repetitive arguments with him. Please!

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1666337645427847169?t=LWaRDewlk7r_8pVTdkE_tw&s=19

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1666337645427847169?s=19&t=LWaRDewlk7r_8pVTdkE_tw

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MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 13:22

I've noticed there's a thread about this on kiwifarms where still images of Surrey police officers from the video CF took of them are being posted along with vile comments. This has to be illegal right?

I also see CF is active on kiwifarms and is using vile hateful language such as "tr**ns" (a derogatory word for transpeople").

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 13:24

On the thread about CF there's a comment "all tr**ns must die".

I honestly don't think this is about misgendering.

reluctantadmissions · 08/06/2023 13:26

@Brefugee sorry to say @reluctantadmissions (because i was a woman in uniform, a different one to yours but the male behaviour was sometimes similar) that if you are not now flagging up every single dubious whatsapp comment in a group you're in, every comment when you are with colleagues on or off duty, etc etc, you are part of the problem.

We are beyond us having to hear, after the fact, that you lot just let it all slide. You are being held to higher standards than the general public. I know offices on and offline who are bleating about how unfair that is. But it is fair. You hold a position in society that REQUIRES those standards to be higher. And for you all to adhere to them at all times. And not allow your fellow officers to fall short.

There is nothing in your above response that I disagree with. Again you have reason to believe what I say but I DO agree we are held to a higher standard. I DO believe it is long overdue and it is fair and right and the we must police the police the same as everyone else. I do not have any spurious WhatsApp groups nor have I been part of any for a long time. I can't steal you I have never seen a bad message or group chat but I can tell you I have left those groups immediately . It was many years ago at the start of my career when I sadly didn't feel able to call it out more than that.

I am in a fortunate position right now where I love my job and really feel like I am helping vulnerable victims. I don't work the front line. I am trying to be part of the solution. I loathe what those awful men did AND am as angry as you that they were facilitated by the met or their force.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 13:26

For anyone wondering, TOR doesn't make you invincible. It's a little more involved but law enforcement can track criminals through it to find their real IP.

Monkmeister · 08/06/2023 13:33

Thank you for the update Dr Moody. I hold Caroline in my thoughts.

zibzibara · 08/06/2023 13:39

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No, just repulsed by the insistence of men such as yourself on invading female-only spaces and violating boundaries intended to keep all men, including those who call themselves women, out of such spaces.

Brisland · 08/06/2023 13:40

Oh how lucky we are to have the blokes turn up to open our eyes as to our misguided ways,
and to ensure we are thinking the right thoughts
and donating to the right people,
and are sufficiently frightened of the “reports” they are producing
and are adequately policing our language - as we wouldn’t want to be untoward about TRAs, would we?

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/06/2023 13:44

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 13:24

On the thread about CF there's a comment "all tr**ns must die".

I honestly don't think this is about misgendering.

You know another word that is derogatory? Terf.
If only exhortations to violence and destruction of terfs were confined to an obscure backwater of the internet, eh?

Update from CF
Ameanstreakamilewide · 08/06/2023 13:49

D'you know what, @FredaWallace, you've done it.

You've finally convinced me that men can be women!

Well done you. 🙄

Redshoeblueshoe · 08/06/2023 14:03

I think Freda deserves a lovely big cake.

Every time Freda goes on JHB several thousand more people are peaked.

Thanks Freda

Redshoeblueshoe · 08/06/2023 14:06

Also I must have missed the memo - but is it compulsory now to put a disclaimer at the end of each post

Brisland · 08/06/2023 14:10

@Redshoeblueshoe only if you want to be helpful to the people who want to skip over your posts without reading them. It works as a good marker/highlights which posts to scroll down past….

SerafinasGoose · 08/06/2023 14:11

Never argue with stupid.

Shortpoet · 08/06/2023 14:13

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 13:22

I've noticed there's a thread about this on kiwifarms where still images of Surrey police officers from the video CF took of them are being posted along with vile comments. This has to be illegal right?

I also see CF is active on kiwifarms and is using vile hateful language such as "tr**ns" (a derogatory word for transpeople").

How are you getting on Kiwifarms today?
The site appears to be permanently down.
has it moved locations?

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 14:39

Shortpoet · 08/06/2023 14:13

How are you getting on Kiwifarms today?
The site appears to be permanently down.
has it moved locations?

You know posting the link is against MN rules (not that I'd want to help people find it anyway).

Anyway I'm sure Ms Farrow's involvement in that site and the content posted by her supporters won't do her case any good.

She is on there using derogatory terms such as "tr**n" as an example of her hatred (evidence that this isn't just about misgendering). Her supporters (who may or may not be herself under a sock account) are posting threats and advocating violence towards the police and LGBT people.

DollyParkin · 08/06/2023 14:43

This whole incident and this thread make me think of the way incels froth up outrage to cover their own inadequacies.

It's another version of toxic masculinity.

yetanotherusernameAgain · 08/06/2023 14:44

What is "tr**ns"?

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2023 14:47

You know posting the link is against MN rules (not that I'd want to help people find it anyway).

Yes dear, we believe you that it exists.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 14:48

yetanotherusernameAgain · 08/06/2023 14:44

What is "tr**ns"?

Portmanteau of "trans" and "goons", it's a derogatory hateful slur used by transphobes to refer to transpeople.

zibzibara · 08/06/2023 14:48

yetanotherusernameAgain · 08/06/2023 14:44

What is "tr**ns"?

It's a somewhat disparaging term for men who call themselves women. Both the "*" are "o" in the uncensored word.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 08/06/2023 14:50

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 13:19

She has very extreme religious views is against gay rights as well as trans rights, she is against abortion too. Anyone thinking of donating to her keep that noted.

She is not on the side of feminism.

Which part of "the right to free speech includes the speech that I don't like" didn't you understand?

I don't want to support her employer to lobby against causes I agree with.

I do want to support her right as an individual to voice her opinion without having the legal system weaponised against her, whether by the vexatious litigant or anyone else. To quote KJK: let women speak.

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2023 14:51

zibzibara · Today 14:48

What is "tr**ns"?

Oh, I thought it was people from a town in Ayrshire...

Ameanstreakamilewide · 08/06/2023 14:53

Who isn't transphobic, to you, though??

Fuck me, wasn't Susie Green called transphobic for being the Head of Mermaids, but not being trans herself?

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 08/06/2023 14:56

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 13:24

On the thread about CF there's a comment "all tr**ns must die".

I honestly don't think this is about misgendering.

Who authored it? Because if it wasn't CF, it's irrelevant to her case.

Pixiedust1234 · 08/06/2023 15:00

Ahhhh...all the mras/tras are hitting this thread. They are obviously worried that women will see how badly the police are behaving over a woman having free speech, so they are filling it up with crap. Haven't they learnt yet that the more they post in a particular thread the more interesting and important the original post is about 🤔

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