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Update from CF

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DerekFaker · 07/06/2023 08:28

This sounds horrendous. How can the police do this.

And yes, it was exactly as we predicted in the previous thread.

Should a certain police officer pop up in this thread, please try not to get drawn into protracted, repetitive arguments with him. Please!

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1666337645427847169?t=LWaRDewlk7r_8pVTdkE_tw&s=19

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1666337645427847169?s=19&t=LWaRDewlk7r_8pVTdkE_tw

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BezMills · 27/06/2023 12:29

SerafinasGoose · 27/06/2023 12:19

GOD he's boring. 💤

Yes, I agree. The process of his posting is our punishment for discussing this topic.

And yet, I will persist in the discussion, while I wait on Surrey Actual Police Service (SAPS) to explain. I'd like them to let us know, at their convenience, whether the dog ate their homework, or maybe someone got a bit enthusiastic and didn't notice that they hadn't done their homework, or whatever other reason they have for turning up at court with a bag of bananas instead of properly prepared homework.

DrLouiseJMoody · 27/06/2023 12:36

Cup of tea, anyone? I cannot be bothered with the cisheteromuppet today.

Redshoeblueshoe · 27/06/2023 12:56

Tea sounds great - thanks Louise

BezMills · 27/06/2023 13:01

I'll go fetch the good biscuits! We're going to need a bigger plate.

Redshoeblueshoe · 27/06/2023 13:04

I've also got lemon cheesecake - with cream

BezMills · 27/06/2023 13:07

I've just had a decent sized lunch but I think my dessert stomach could manage a teensy tiny slice

SabrinaThwaite · 27/06/2023 13:11

I’ll see your lemon cheesecake and raise you with a key lime pie.

AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 27/06/2023 13:18

mmmmmmmmmmmm pie.

I have half a mixed fruit crumble in the fridge, willing to share.

Pixiedust1234 · 27/06/2023 13:37

And yet, I will persist in the discussion, while I wait on Surrey Actual Police Service (SAPS) to explain.

SAPS 😂

Slang. a fool; sucker; dupe.

Boiledbeetle · 27/06/2023 13:42
Cats Reaction GIF by TikTok MENA

Ooh good I'm starving. I've been tied to a stake all morning, i was supposed to be being burned at said stake but it's been rained off and postponed until next Monday.

Feed me. Feed me NOW!

Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 27/06/2023 13:45

Delurking for cake as I’ve run out of Tunnocks tea cakes.

BezMills · 27/06/2023 13:46

Reorders Tunnocks with alacrity

Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 27/06/2023 13:50

BezMills · 27/06/2023 13:46

Reorders Tunnocks with alacrity

Are they here yet ? 👀 they need to come in bigger boxes, or my kitchen needs to be further from my sofa

JanesLittleGirl · 27/06/2023 16:13

@Felix125

This is only a little thing but when you have a moment, please will you look in a dictionary for the verbs bare and bear?

To bare means to uncover or expose. To bear means to carry or hold. Please bear this in mind the next time you post?

BaronMunchausen · 27/06/2023 16:42

Felix125 · 27/06/2023 12:19

BaronMunchausen
But you still need to have a primary offence (alleged) in law.

The hate part is the aggravating factor to that offence (alleged).

If the interaction is online, the police will use the Malicious Communications Act. If it is in person, the Protection from Harassment Act.

The malice and harassment are strictly perception-based.

reluctantadmissions · 27/06/2023 17:51

Felix125 · 23/06/2023 01:52

Dumbo12
I have said that it is the process which is similar (or more or less the same) to that of a DVPN

We can just refer to the stalking order from now on if you want to.

The point is - they are obtained pre-charge. Not at the point of charge - as bail conditions would be placed on the suspect at the point of charge - making a such an order not necessary.

And hence, if they can only be applied for at the point of charge (as GCalltheway suggests) then these orders would not exist at all - but they do.

Sadly I have to disagree with you there Felix. The SPO's (which are relatively new) and equivalent civil orders, whilst civil, do appear to come in tandem with charges/convictions. Usually because the criminal justice system doesn't always have the power to penalise and/or prevent further offending and the SPO/DVPO tend to have stricter conditions.

So for a stalking, which often ends up charged down to harassment, we may get a slap on the wrist and a suspended sentence but an SPO on the back would strengthen the protection afforded to the complainant/victim.

I do agree they can be applied for prior to charges/convictions but I've seen orders tagged onto convictions as frequently if not more. A I think SPO's though remain to be seen how they will best be utilised but I know there's a place for them. Clearly not in this case as decided by the courts/prosecutors in the end but definitely for those victims that are being hounded, stalked and ultimately at high risk of serious harm/death. With stalking as one of the main factors present in femicide, they have potential to be of real value in protection with stronger powers attached and less requirement for victim support which is not always easy to get.

The only civil orders of this kind of nature that I routinely see being approved completely aside from any criminal
Investigation are non mols, prohibited steps and occ orders. All orders that police have no dealings with. Even Restraining Orders come on the back of (or sometimes in place of) convictions

ArabeIIaScott · 27/06/2023 17:55

So THIS is where all the cakes and biscuits have been hidden today.

Redshoeblueshoe · 27/06/2023 18:13

Arabella you're just too late. They have all gone. The milk and honey biscuits from Lidl were delicious, I'll save you some next time

Ourladycheesusedatum · 27/06/2023 18:15

ArabeIIaScott · 27/06/2023 17:55

So THIS is where all the cakes and biscuits have been hidden today.

Just back from work, gonna eat a sandwich and then steal all the tunnock's and pies and cheesecakes and random assorted biscuits.

Dont mind me in the corner, I am starving. Eaten nothing but a slice of toast today. It's not enough.

Anyway hoping CF gets good news soon.

SinnerBoy · 27/06/2023 18:20

You can have some of my daughter's pink wafers, she's got half a packet left.

SabrinaThwaite · 27/06/2023 18:29

Which reminds me to add caramel wafers to my shopping list.

Also eyeing up the lemons and remembering that I have cream in the fridge, maybe a lemon posset could be added to the MN dessert trolley?

Boiledbeetle · 27/06/2023 18:53
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I really should avoid threads like this when trying to compose a shopping list. I have cat food and a lot of random shit now!

I am however well on my way through a coffee cake that accidentally fell into my basket on the way past the little shop this afternoon.

Cake it appears is an entirely acceptable meal choice for an adult! (Just don't let any kids know!).

IcakethereforeIam · 27/06/2023 19:05

I've been avoiding this thread because....well....you know. But cake! I've got some strawberry cornettos in the freezer?

Boiledbeetle · 27/06/2023 19:10
goodbye oh goodbye mv GIF by SideOneDummy Records

I've got room for a cornetto!

See you all on the next thread

Caroline keep strong!

IcakethereforeIam · 27/06/2023 19:11

Just one?

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