Antipodean fruit growers 3 - Is the Kiwi a Dodo or a Phoenix?

[Bosky]

Continuation thread from Antipodean fruit growers 2 - Canary in the internet coal mine
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4632616-antipodean-fruit-growers-2-canary-in-the-internet-coal-mine

Front row seat on the seemingly eternal battle between Jersh (aka Suzi Quatro's Fat Nan) and his Merry Band of Farmers against the Transpowered Forces of Internet Censorship.

1st Thread - Antipodean fruit grower statement
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4620584-antipodean-fruit-grower-statement

[DevilinaCardigan]

@MerlinsLostMarbles

Just checking, is r*pe roleplay legal in the US (where kiwifarms is based)?

Illegal activity on your hate site is being reported, don't worry.

I have no idea what they are saying on the farms, but why would role play between consenting adults be illegal? Distasteful maybe but illegal?

[Hepwo]

@MerlinsLostMarbles

@Bosky, I'm not reading glinner's blog. You know, the guy who threatened to kill women at an LGBT rally and threatened to drag a woman out of a woman's bathroom.

Male violence against women is something we need to be standing up to and calling out.

Izzard!

[MerlinsLostMarbles]

@DevilinaCardigan

I have no idea what they are saying on the farms, but why would role play between consenting adults be illegal? Distasteful maybe but illegal?

I think it depends on specifically what's being said and what the jurisdiction says.

I would have thought, since this is after all a feminism and mothering forum, posters on here might have found that inappropriate.

[DevilinaCardigan]

There’s a huge gulf between illegal and inappropriate.

[BernardBlacksMolluscs]

Cor, someone’s awful keen to be in charge of what posters here can read and think aren’t they?

<shudder>

such people give me the fucking creeps

[DrLouiseJMoody]

@MerlinsLostMarbles

@Bosky, I'm not reading glinner's blog. You know, the guy who threatened to kill women at an LGBT rally and threatened to drag a woman out of a woman's bathroom.

Male violence against women is something we need to be standing up to and calling out.

I completely agree, Merlin. There are, after all, numerous TRAs with extensive criminal histories involving violence and sex crimes that those of us with platforms should alert everyone as well as using our connections to ensure that none of these people are ever platformed by mainstream media.

Of course, I am sure that this does not apply to you being just a random poster.

[SadKendall]

@DrLouiseJMoody 🙌

[AlisonDonut]

If you don't like Julia Hartley-Brewer, then don't follow her. It is pretty simple!

[JanesLittleGirl]

It is a principal of English law that any action, no matter how offensive, that is not specifically forbidden is allowed.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

Illegal activity on your hate site is being reported, don't worry.

I would expect all illegal activity to be reported. But clearly no one has the foggiest what you are referring to. It's a big site.

[DrLouiseJMoody]

I don't think I've (yet) seen anything illegal on KiwiFarms. I have, however, seen evidence of numerous TRAs being criminals / violent / paedophiles and all round nut biscuits. They are furious it's the one place they can't shut down and it's brilliant.

[DevilinaCardigan]

I'm SO glad that big, strong, @MerlinsLostMarbles is here to tell me what I can read and websites I can visit. My little pink ladybrain can't think for itself. blink blink blink ... giggle ... simper...

[DevilinaCardigan]

In other news, TRAs are so focused on discrediting the messengers (or the archivists) because they don't have any actual arguments to defend their position. It's all so LOOK OVER THERE!!!

I know a lot of people on here don't like drag, but damn they make great memes and gifs.

[DrLouiseJMoody]

It's thirty something degrees here. Time to bust out my KiwiFarms t-shirt so I can troll on the beach - no, I didn't buy it, it was sent anonymously after a completely unknown but probably obsessive deranged mam posted my address.

[SadKendall]

@DrLouiseJMoody

I don't think I've (yet) seen anything illegal on KiwiFarms. I have, however, seen evidence of numerous TRAs being criminals / violent / paedophiles and all round nut biscuits. They are furious it's the one place they can't shut down and it's brilliant.

Yep!

[nothingcomestonothing]

@MerlinsLostMarbles

I'm not allowed to post it on MN, but law enforcement are aware and I've offered to show a screenshot to MNHQ as proof.

It's not a secret posters on kiwifarms stalk transpeople and try to make them commit suicide. There's been 3 trans-suicides linked to bullying from site.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/02/kiwi-farms-die-drop-cloudflare-chandler-trolls/

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/cloudflare-kiwi-farms-keffals-anti-trans-rcna44834

See in my head, that came out as 'I've told your mum, and the teacher'. Get a grip, why would 'law enforcement' ( or the police, as we call them in the UK) or MNHQ care what's on KF?

As I'm sure we've discussed before, there is no evidence KF members 'stalk trans people and try to make them commit suicide'. Of the three supposed victims, one didn't actually die he just stopped posting online under his username (you know that's not the same as being dead, right?), and the other two were people with long standing complex mental health issues and real life troubles, at least one of who's family publically stated that her death had nothing to do with KF.

You, on the other hand, accused a trans poster on MN of trying to make trans people commit suicide. Ready to say sorry yet?

[DerekFaker]

@MerlinsLostMarbles

Just checking, is r*pe roleplay legal in the US (where kiwifarms is based)?

Illegal activity on your hate site is being reported, don't worry.

Well, Reddit has been getting away with it for years, so maybe not?

[DerekFaker]

@MerlinsLostMarbles

@Bosky, I'm not reading glinner's blog. You know, the guy who threatened to kill women at an LGBT rally and threatened to drag a woman out of a woman's bathroom.

Male violence against women is something we need to be standing up to and calling out.

Lying again. Pathetic.

[Bosky]

"MerlinsLostMarbles" - is that a euphemism?

https://genevievegluck.substack.com/archive?sort=search&search=castration

[SmartHome]

@DrLouiseJMoody

I don't think I've (yet) seen anything illegal on KiwiFarms. I have, however, seen evidence of numerous TRAs being criminals / violent / paedophiles and all round nut biscuits. They are furious it's the one place they can't shut down and it's brilliant.

In a nutshell. Women say no to TRA male violence. And the Farms document and support that. Seethe and cope, as they say on the Farms.

[AlisonDonut]

Merlin was quite keen to get onto the Farms a while back, which makes Merlin a Farms user and as much a part of the problem that Merlin says the Farms is, than anyone else.

Of course the people most angered by the Farms is those whose behaviour has been documented on it. Especially if they have their own thread...

[MerlinsLostMarbles]

@DerekFaker

Lying again. Pathetic.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230504113300/twitter.com/Glinner/status/1654046152952627202" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20230504113300/twitter.com/Glinner/status/1654046152952627202

If I ever see Eddie using a woman's toilet I will drag him out by his kinky boots.

https://www.cityam.com/graham-linehan-aka-glinner-banned-from-twitter-again/

The tweet Linenan was banned for read: “Durr imm gonna kill em. Fuck off Daniel you mens [sic] rights activist.”

[MerlinsLostMarbles]

@DrLouiseJMoody

I don't think I've (yet) seen anything illegal on KiwiFarms. I have, however, seen evidence of numerous TRAs being criminals / violent / paedophiles and all round nut biscuits. They are furious it's the one place they can't shut down and it's brilliant.

I wouldn't sign up but I've looked at it to find the "evidence" of "bad TRAs" you speak of.

I don't see any "evidence" or anything at all that would hold up in court. It's all false and malicious accusations, calling transwomen "rapists" and "groomers" without proof and threads going back years stalking specific transwomen. For example they are screenshotting a transwomen's social media posts saying they are going travelling and then claiming "they must be a pedo going to another country to abuse children".

This is hateful stalking and harassment and you know it. You are criminally targeting transpeople just because they are trans.

I've also seen suicide goading and violent threats.

[DerekFaker]

Yes, we've all seen those obvious joke posts before.

Meanwhile, Glinner won his appeal and is back on twitter, and TRAs continue to ignore genuine threats of violence from their side. Of which there are THOUSANDS.