"Yoofsplaining". Yes, love it. Great term for when someone half my age starts trying to explain tech like VPNs to me. Kids these days struggle with file systems because they just use phones that save everything to its own automatically assigned locations which most of them never see. I think tech understanding on average is actually going down.
@Christinapple
"btw, even if kiwifarms doesn't have porn on it (I don't know)"
You mean you've never even been on the site? Well it doesn't. Null has made it pretty clear that the site is not for NSFW content. Not porn, anyway. In fact if you did visit you'd find a lot of the userbase is actively condemning of "coomers".
"the Online Safety Bill covers more than just porn and there is no way kiwifarms would be in the clear from it"
And for those of us who don't outsource our judgement to the government, we value being able to read uncensored information about the trans movement etc without being censored. But lets examine this btw. The Online Safety Bill guidance can be found here:
Online Safety Act: explainer - GOV.UK
Firstly it says that sites publishing pornographic content must implement age filters. Well the site doesn't host porn and you think Age Verification is unviable anyway (least ways you've argued against my proposals) so lets take this one off the table. Lets see the rest:
- encouraging or assisting serious self-harm
- cyberflashing
- sending false information intended to cause non-trivial harm
- threatening communications
- intimate image abuse
- epilepsy trolling
The Farms doesn't engage in the above. In fact, some users have gotten a lot of support and advice when they've been in bad places. I can in fairness think of an instance when someone's nudes were published. Null did take them down. But in any case it's not my job to say the Farms is perfect, only to correct misinformation. There's a lot of content that some people would prefer isn't on the site to be sure, but it's information they've put out in public and has been archived. For example, I'm quite sure Liz-Fong Jones would prefer his "consent accident" tweet could be buried in history but the Farm's remember. In any case, it's not a site where someone will post private images of their ex- for revenge which is what the above was written for. And I'll especially call out the "threatening communications" piece because another rule of the Farms is you don't touch the cows. I.e. the Farms is about documenting and laughing at people. Not direct interaction.
Lets go into the other parts of the act:
- child sexual abuse
- controlling or coercive behaviour
- extreme sexual violence
- extreme pornography
- fraud
- racially or religiously aggravated public order offences
- inciting violence
- illegal immigration and people smuggling
- promoting or facilitating suicide
- intimate image abuse
- selling illegal drugs or weapons
- sexual exploitation
- terrorism
The Farms is, with rare exceptions by choice, anonymous. So half of the above are just non-viable to begin with. You can find documentation and discussion of any of the above on there, but not the stuff itself. I guess if you interpret the odd reply of "KYS" as promoting suicide but then you know you're twisting things in that case. And I discussed how "fedposting" is called out upthread.
The closest you could come to classing the Farms under the Online Safety Act would be on one of the "incitement" offences but that's really just people expressing their opinions on various groups or people. Null has made it clear that "KiwiFarms is not your personal army" when people have attempted to rally other users to some cause.
Oh, and this bit:
"I understand it has already been blocked by UK ISPs in the interests of safety indepently of the Safety Bill."
Well, independently is the key word there - i.e. the government hasn't placed it on its list of blocked sites. I know at least one ISP (a mobile one) did block it, but another mobile ISP hasn't and my home ISP doesn't. There's a lot of misinformation about the Farms and that led certain people at the top to block it or deny it service. You can read more about this. On the Farms. ;)
General comment: Given I've been correcting a bunch of misinformation in this thread and sharing updates, I could come across as being wholly a defender of the Farms. To be clear, there are some absolutely horrible sentiments and views expressed on there. But also great ones. That's the nature of Free Speech. It's a rambunctious place where you are expected to be able to handle contrary views and handle mockery. Mockery being what it was started for.