Antipodean fruit growers 3 - Is the Kiwi a Dodo or a Phoenix?

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Continuation thread from Antipodean fruit growers 2 - Canary in the internet coal mine
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4632616-antipodean-fruit-growers-2-canary-in-the-internet-coal-mine

Front row seat on the seemingly eternal battle between Jersh (aka Suzi Quatro's Fat Nan) and his Merry Band of Farmers against the Transpowered Forces of Internet Censorship.

1st Thread - Antipodean fruit grower statement
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4620584-antipodean-fruit-grower-statement

Twitter has ALWAYS let racists post what they want. I used to be in a group especially for mass reporting them. It was like whack a mole. And abusive misogynists. Always been plenty of them. Thr revisionism that's going on now is frankly funny.

The only thing that has changed is you can now call a man a man.

When Musk took over he unbanned a tonne of racist, misogynist and extremists that were perma-banned before.

Know what else has changed? Musk doesn't cooperate with police when they try to investigate crimes. Criminals have Musks' protection.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/saka-racist-abuse-police-arsenal-33467309

You can report extremists to PREVENT in the UK.

You really are great, looking out for so many diverse people but if your feed is full of racist, sexist extremists, you can follow different people whenever you want.

Oh good, "they don't have CP any more" is that supposed to make me think anyone who supports them isn't an awful person?

Any site too extreme for the sick people over on 8chan is not a site even the most deranged individuals should delude themselves into supporting.

Anyone reading this should consciously consider what kind of people they are talking to on here, and also consider what their intentions might be, if there are such shared users between here and there.

Who are you talking about exactly? Them/there/here/they...if you could specify who is doing what exactly it might help people understand what you are going on about.

Anyone reading this should consciously consider what kind of people they are talking to on here, and also consider what their intentions might be, if there are such shared users between here and there

If there ARE shared users between here and there, don’t you need to ask yourself the same questions?

KF never had child abuse, not 'don't have it any more'. As I said up thread, the last person to falsely state that KF hosted such material had to publicly recant under threat of the law. So I'd be very careful about making that false claim, if I were you.

And smears of guilt by association don't work on GC feminists, we've had years of being judged by the company we allegedly keep. Purity spirals are for the people who get their opinions in a job lot.

PS how have you formed your (incorrect) opinions on KF? Cos either you are one of the people there, and therefore an awful person supporting the deranged, or you've been told what KF is and believed lies without bothering to check. Are you a gullible sheep, or a sick person who's used KF?

So is it Twitter that's the evil hate site now? Not KF? Marg hates so many hate sites, it's hard to keep up

Yet consistently Marge delights us with his presence - anyone would assume Marge is cryptofash, considering how often he posts on so called Prosecco Stormfront!

Marg probably doesn't like MN much either.

Spending time interacting with awful people is challenging. I, personally, would struggle. Yes, the occasional argued and constructive disagreement. But much mo0re and you would be bringing out the straight-jacket.

The pull of scolding terves must be stronger than the push of being around ‘fash’ (or whatever insult is flavour of the month for disobedient women right now).

Marg had to ditch the marg persona after saying some horrible transphobic things.

Sad times 😞

How on earth is marge still getting away with so much sock puppeting on this thread

What would we do without Marge? So useful in demonstrating weak arguments. If they were not around we would be in danger of being an echo-chamber. I wonder how many posters, over time, have been convinced by the calm and patient responses to Marge.

Ya know it was all that scolding that led me to have a look at the farms ages ago. I’m a grown ass woman and I can choose what websites I want to use.

Like MN, KF has loads of threads and a lot of them don’t interest me. There are millions (? billions) of websites out there. If you don’t like one, there are millions of other websites that may be more to your tastes.

A similar website called "tr**nindex"- set up to doxx and "index" trans people has been banned from its provider and reported to police.

As it should have been.

But advertising that people are now producing doxxing websites and giving other people ideas about how to doxx people is probably not the best use of your time to be honest. You will just encourage other people to find ways round the rules.

Just a thought.

Kiwifarms isn't much different and this thread has 542 replies advertising it

Some of which are yours @Christinapple

Posting the website address of the doxxing website is a home goal if you are trying to not advertise this approach.

Especially if it is reinvigorated by someone who has a more robust method to the hosting of said website.

First post on this thread. "Kiwifarms is terrible and I hate it and you should hate it too" (I paraphrase)

If posting on this thread is promoting Kiwifarms, then someone should tell the first poster and all the other ones that are only on the thread to tell us KF is a bad place for bad people full of bad things (etc etc ad nauseam)

WTF has that got to do with MN? Or KF?

The linkages made in that poster’s mind are abstruse and idiosyncratic to say the least 🤷‍♀️

I suppose Chris reads all three, so that’s sort of a connection?

KF does the same thing.