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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Declining to put my preferred pronouns in my email signature

434 replies

HowDoIGetThisThingOff · 23/05/2023 13:11

It's finally happened, I've been "told" to put my preferred pronouns in my email signature at work.

I've emailed back saying my preference is that I don't do this. But I'm feeling a bit anxious 😬.

Please can I get some advice on what to say if they come back with questions or pressure to comply?

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TerfIngOnTheBeach · 23/05/2023 18:41

Girlboss1989 · 23/05/2023 15:20

Why don't you just include whichever pronouns you want people to use for you?

Why? For what reason?

If someone calls me him and Joe by mistake when I’m a she and a Jo, I don’t care, I am not pandering to this shit.

until I took my welcome voluntary redundancy a few weeks ago, I worked for a massive well known. We had all this encouragement to use pronouns for inclusivity, I can categorically confirm 99% of people didn’t bother with the pronoun crap either and ignored it, including 100% of my female and gay colleagues.

BellaAmorosa · 23/05/2023 18:43

maltravers · 23/05/2023 18:20

I’d rather people mistook me for a man than part of the Gender Borg.

😂😂
Same, same!

PuzzledObserver · 23/05/2023 18:45

Can someone explain how me saying that my pronouns are she/her (which they are, because I’m female, and there’s unlikely to be any confusion over email because my name is unambiguously female) helps someone who is trans/gender fluid/non binary etc.

mitsandscarf · 23/05/2023 18:48

Refer them to Matt Walsh

pennypingletonpenny · 23/05/2023 18:48

SpringNotSprung · 23/05/2023 15:32

I'm waiting for the instruction. When it comes I'll be putting: "my pronouns are I and me"

Yes, this has always bothered me. I don’t get how this ever became a thing, as surely it is all ultimately pointless anyway isn’t it - when someone addresses me they’ll just use “you” and “yours”?

Maia77 · 23/05/2023 18:49

PuzzledObserver · 23/05/2023 18:45

Can someone explain how me saying that my pronouns are she/her (which they are, because I’m female, and there’s unlikely to be any confusion over email because my name is unambiguously female) helps someone who is trans/gender fluid/non binary etc.

Exactly. It's not about being disrespectful to people who don't fit neatly into gender/sex categories. It just doesn't make much sense.

Thinkwicebeforeyouleavemylife · 23/05/2023 18:50

Girlboss1989 · 23/05/2023 15:20

Why don't you just include whichever pronouns you want people to use for you?

Because presumably that would constitute buying into an ideology that OP , and many others, feel deeply opposed to.

SunflowerLovers · 23/05/2023 18:51

Why are you ashamed to let people know you’re a woman? Have you changed your first name to something gender neutral so no one can tell? I hate to break it to you but despite hiding your pronouns you will always be referred to as ‘she’.

herecomesthsun · 23/05/2023 18:53

Could I say I identify as Debbie Harry and Chrissie Hynde? on alternate days?

girl crushes for 40 years

maltravers · 23/05/2023 18:53

I’m not ashamed Sunflower, but suggesting my sex (or gender!) is relevant to my job in sexist claptrap. Why should I buy into it?

bossybloss · 23/05/2023 18:53

SpringNotSprung · 23/05/2023 15:32

I'm waiting for the instruction. When it comes I'll be putting: "my pronouns are I and me"

This is genius!

MarkWithaC · 23/05/2023 18:53

tonyatotter · 23/05/2023 17:59

I caused a bit of upset when I was asked to do this, and decided I wanted to identify as a cable clip, so put my pronouns as clip/clipped - boss wasn't happy, but I put on a straight face and said "are you questioning my identity, are you discriminating against clips, what if i was a pipe clip, would you discriminate against that"
Eventually someone more senior told me to take it off and that was that - our caretaker still has "Dogs/Body" on his email signature, no one has noticed!

I like the cut of his jib Grin

HowDoIGetThisThingOff · 23/05/2023 18:56

SunflowerLovers · 23/05/2023 18:51

Why are you ashamed to let people know you’re a woman? Have you changed your first name to something gender neutral so no one can tell? I hate to break it to you but despite hiding your pronouns you will always be referred to as ‘she’.

I don't need to "let people know".
I am a woman.
I was born one.
I have a woman's name.
They already know.

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Jellifulfruit · 23/05/2023 18:57

My pronouns are we/us, for all my personalities

Lolapusht · 23/05/2023 18:58

Still my favourite…

[[https://wildwomynworkshop.com/store/mugs/pronouns-mug/

Declining to put my preferred pronouns in my email signature
Nousernamesleftatall · 23/05/2023 18:59

Good for you. If pushed say my pronouns are WTF/FFS.

SunnyEgg · 23/05/2023 18:59

SunflowerLovers · 23/05/2023 18:51

Why are you ashamed to let people know you’re a woman? Have you changed your first name to something gender neutral so no one can tell? I hate to break it to you but despite hiding your pronouns you will always be referred to as ‘she’.

That’s the point. There is no shame

I am a woman. People know. No one has got it wrong, I don’t need to add pronouns

VaddaABeetch · 23/05/2023 18:59

I put mine down as FeeFi/FoFum (I smell some gender bull shite).

ArabeIIaScott · 23/05/2023 19:00

SaltyColin · 23/05/2023 18:25

Ha haaa, well said.
People can make all the assumptions they want about my sex/gender/whatever. But I DO NOT want them assuming my level of intelligence!

100%

Don't gaf if I'm 'misgendered'. Quite often I'll be taken more seriously if people think I'm a man.

I do gaf about people thinking I'm into genderpish, which is the standard assumption most people make when they see pronouns.

swerve/avoid/nothankyou

Thinkwicebeforeyouleavemylife · 23/05/2023 19:01

MerlinsLostMarbles · 23/05/2023 17:30

Your options are
1- State your preferred pronouns. Everyone's happy.

2- Refuse to do so and launch into a hateful diatribe about transpeople when asked why. Fall out with your boss and colleagues and end up getting fired.

Except clearly everyone isn't happy, are they.

Not wanting to state your pronouns is not transphobic.

louderthan · 23/05/2023 19:04

Jellifulfruit · 23/05/2023 18:57

My pronouns are we/us, for all my personalities

Brilliant 🤩
Mine are 'she/her/Satan'

Tooclosetodanger · 23/05/2023 19:05

Don’t play the game ladies. I grit my teeth whenever I see pronouns on someone’s email signature or LinkedIn profile. It irritates me so much!!

Aquarius/Aquarian/Aquariamus

nothingcomestonothing · 23/05/2023 19:05

SunflowerLovers · 23/05/2023 18:51

Why are you ashamed to let people know you’re a woman? Have you changed your first name to something gender neutral so no one can tell? I hate to break it to you but despite hiding your pronouns you will always be referred to as ‘she’.

If I'm always going to be referred to as 'she', I don't need to state my pronouns, do I?

8state · 23/05/2023 19:06

@PuzzledObserver If lots of people are stating their pronouns, it normalises it. Trans people then don't feel weird about stating their pronouns, it becomes a routine thing. This is how it was explained to me at my last very diverse training day. I have to admit I completely lost track of who was he/she/they/it, but I don't mind it in principle. It shouldn't be forced on people though.

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