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Statement by the UN Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women and Girls, Reem Alsalem.

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WarriorN · 22/05/2023 16:07

"BOOM!

Statement by the UN Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women and Girls, Reem Alsalem.

ohchr.org/sites/default/…

It is unequivocal in condemning the silencing, harassment and failure to protect women and girls for raising questions about gender identity."

Fantastic news!

Screen shots of the statement in the tweet.

twitter.com/jophoenix1/status/1660660935025934337?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

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fabricstash · 22/05/2023 16:09

Great!

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WarriorN · 22/05/2023 16:09

She's basically gone full team terf 😂

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Signalbox · 22/05/2023 16:10

What a fantastic statement.

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WarriorN · 22/05/2023 16:13

Dancing in the kitchen while putting shopping away here

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WarriorN · 22/05/2023 16:14

Women and girls who emphasize the specific needs of women born female and who call for and engage in discussions around the definitions of sex gender, and gender identity ... should ... be able to express themselves and their concerns on these issues in safety and in dignity.

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Signalbox · 22/05/2023 16:15

I think I’ll send a copy of this to my MP.

nothingcomestonothing · 22/05/2023 16:18

Oh oh, can she tell Victor Madrigal-Borloz? I don't think he's up to speed on this

WallaceinAnderland · 22/05/2023 16:23

One to send to MPs ahead of the Equality Act discussion in Parliament on 12 June.

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WarriorN · 22/05/2023 16:24

Absolutely!

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Signalbox · 22/05/2023 16:24

nothingcomestonothing · 22/05/2023 16:18

Oh oh, can she tell Victor Madrigal-Borloz? I don't think he's up to speed on this

I suppose there is as much squabbling over sex and gender at the UN as everywhere else. Can RS be sacked? I don't know how the UN works.

OneMorePlant · 22/05/2023 16:28

This is so fantastic !!!

ArabeIIaScott · 22/05/2023 16:37

YES!!! Come on, REEEM!!!!!

ArabeIIaScott · 22/05/2023 16:40

https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-violence-against-women/reem-alsalem

'Reem Alsalem is an independent consultant on gender issues, the rights of refugees and migrants, transitional justice and humanitarian response. She has consulted extensively for United Nations departments, agencies and programmes such as UN-Women, OHCHR, UNICEF and IOM, as well as for non-governmental organizations, think tanks and academia. Previously, she worked as an international civil servant, serving with the UNHCR in thirteen countries. During her service, she has planned, implemented, and monitored programs that served to protect persons that were survivors of gender-based violence, particularly women and girls.
She has also been a visiting professional with the Prosecutor’s Office of the ICC from January to March 2009 and a visiting researcher with the Feinstein International Center of Tufts University in December 2008. Visiting Professional, Investigation Unit of the Prosecutor Office, International Criminal Court, the Hague, the Netherlands, January 2009-March 2009.
Reem has a Master’s in International Relations from the American University in Cairo, Egypt (2001) and a Masters in Human Rights Law from the University of Oxford, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (2003).'

Reem Alsalem

https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-violence-against-women/reem-alsalem

MrsOvertonsWindow · 22/05/2023 16:55

A powerful statement. Now let's wait for the wails from those against free speech, against freedom of association for women and in favour of harassment & censorship.

Counting down ....

IwantToRetire · 22/05/2023 17:44

Had hoped this would be on FWR but had also hoped that the actual reason for the statement had been in the title, not just to attract comments from FWRs, but to alert public.

not sure the lure of a "statement" is going to be very strong :(

The title is:

Allow women and girls to speak on sex, gender and gender identity without intimidation or fear: UN expert

which hopefully to the world at large will mean something. Assuming it is ever seen or its intent made clear.

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WarriorN · 22/05/2023 17:51

Apologies - can attempt to get changed?

I did think about title - wanted those who avoid fwr because we are bigots but claim to be feminists who want to campaign against violence against women and girls to see it.

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WarriorN · 22/05/2023 17:52

But I see your point

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/05/2023 18:16

For heaven's sake, the thread title is fine.

UtopiaPlanitia · 22/05/2023 18:16

WarriorN · 22/05/2023 17:51

Apologies - can attempt to get changed?

I did think about title - wanted those who avoid fwr because we are bigots but claim to be feminists who want to campaign against violence against women and girls to see it.

Thanks for starting the thread, WarriorN, and posting links to the statement - it makes for excellent reading. I think I’ll send a copy to my MP when I contact him about the June debate.

ArabeIIaScott · 22/05/2023 19:09

Good idea to send to MPs.

Twitter responses are predictable. Alsalem is accused of 'overt bigotry'.

https://twitter.com/UN_SPExperts/status/1660601329394278401

https://twitter.com/UN_SPExperts/status/1660601329394278401

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/05/2023 19:15

The usual hyperbole.

PopGoesTheProsecco · 22/05/2023 19:16

Apologies for my ignorance. My knowledge of the workings of the UN are somewhat limited.

I obviously welcome this statement wholeheartedly - we should be able to debate these issues without being abused. But in practise, how much difference will this make?

Is this a game changer? I mean not with TRAs - but with organisations in society? How much clout does this statement have?

bellinisurge · 22/05/2023 19:19

Hallelujah