Female cyclists in podium no-show after being beaten by male cyclist

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https://www.outkick.com/cyclists-no-show-post-race-podium-after-biological-male-finishes-1st-in-female-race/

This was in a Colorado - Utah race a couple of days ago. Apologies if there's already a thread. I didn't see one.

Interestingly, this was in the race for cyclists aged 40-49. I wonder if older athletes are less likely to stand for this nonsense. Anyway, good for them. I hope this spreads to younger cyclists and other sports.

Always Google it no one's brain is perfect.

I don't know how else to explain this.

Don't bother on my account because you're not convincing me of anything.

Except social and cultural science exists and I don't see the point in arguing with someone who doesn't know that.

Who has said here that social sciences do not exist? I can't see anything which says that.

Also, you have made a bold claim, regarding scientific consensus and have been asked to provide some evidence. You seem to be highly confident in that and assured of your rectitude.

Surely, if that's the case, you should be able to provide some links to evidence, which supports your assertions?

The way these things work is that you should do that and not say "Google it!"

I can’t believe someone is trying to argue that there’s a scientific consensus that some males are actually women. That wouldn’t be a scientific discovery, but a massive change in how we define the term “woman”.

Yes, a logically consistent method of testing out a theory.

I'm glad they changed that, otherwise its like implying a willy makes you run faster or whatever, which is clearly silly.

You don't say!

Testing a hypothesis usually. Sometimes theories though granted.

Well this has gone a bit bonkers.

Willies don't runs a races; certainly not in my experience, although it would be funny to watch one try.

A hypothesis is the basis for a theory.

No, that's my evidence for consensus. You're all still trying to argue that there either isn't one at all or that it is opposed to transition but the scientific consensus on people who are trans is that transitioning is the best treatment.

And readers, at this point this poster shows you exactly the dangers of ideological thinking in a medical capacity.

“If you seek to transition they either support you or, if they have personal hang ups, you can complain and get someone who will support you. Because the consensus in the field is that transitioning is the right treatment. That's why it is prescribed.”

This statement right here!

There is no research that has ever shown there is an improvement in a trans person’s mental health with medicalisation. There was one study by someone from Yale, but they had to retract their conclusion because it was shown it was a false conclusion. They conceded that there was no true improvement shown.

The reality is that what this poster is trying to say is that there is ‘consensus’ about current affirming only care. There is not. This is dangerous misinformation.

It has been shown that the Dutch Protocol is effectively no longer being used. Because there is no where near enough extensive exploratory therapy being done. Both the ‘extensive’ part has been diluted to a meaningless form of too few sessions. And the ‘exploratory’ part has been effectively removed due to it being deemed as ‘conversion therapy’.

The authors of the Dutch Protocol have stated clearly that their protocol is not effective in treating the majority of the current cohort of young transitioners. Who are female!

So, we have a poster who is now spreading harmful misinformation.

Yup you have to have a hypothesis, usually lots, tested before you get near a theory, for sure.

Again:

It depends what is meant by "transitioning". If it's puberty blockers, hormones and surgery for minors, no it isn't, either in this country, many countries in Europe, or on a state by state basis in the US.

This is a nice way to try to ban someone you disagree with but I'm just stating facts. The reason my friend transitioned is because she sought it and it was provided because in this country it is the treatment for gender dysphoria. Saying scientists oppose me because some do is ignoring the majority who agree and the evidence of that majority is trans people who hade transitioned, of whom I know many.

I'm beginning to think that trying to reason with Mumma may be marginally less effective that licking an electric eel.

Kids mostly socially transition but puberty blockers are safe and effective.

If you're an adult then yes it's generally agreed following diagnosis as "trans" that you can take cross sex hormones and even have body modification surgery in a vain attempt to physically present as the opposite sex.

Well yeah because I'm right.

than, not that

Vain? Dude have you seen some trans women. Far more beautiful than me!

Kids mostly socially transition but puberty blockers are safe and effective.

Doesn't appear to be the "consensus" that puberty blockers are safe for kids though, does it?

It does actually.