Video of Starbucks employee in UK branch

[FisherthemsFriend]

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1655477645184835586

It’s not clear what the customer said, it’s presumed she misgenders the employee as he calls her transphobic. He calls her Karen and then either grabs the phone or the person who’s filming.

The thing is, if you are 6 foot, got an adams apple and a bulge in your pants, then my brain, evolved over thousands of years, is going to say MAN. You can put on a dress, and makeup, but they are still a man.

People shouldn’t be demonised for not having the ability to retrain millenniums of recognition.

I’m glad that person has been sacked.

The fact that she points out the store’s CCTV camera suggests, I think, that she is confident she has done nothing wrong.

What was the clapping like a seal all about? Very intimidating, threatening and hostile.

The They (😂) was 100% in the wrong. Up until a mere few weeks ago, I’d have been totally apologetic if I’d unintentionally misgendered someone but I no longer give a F* and if people demand I ‘be kind’, well, until they show the same courtesy they can swivel!

https://twitter.com/MalesInDisguise/status/1655599457797390337?t=ELRnI4_kwY-PsZ1jZS3bcg&s=19

What's the insistence on being a 'they' anyway? It's just odd and self-indulgent.

Good to see the employee was sacked.

Being misgendered is never an excuse for displaying aggression.

I think the clapping in the face of somebody you are arguing with started in America. It's very prominent in black women having shouting matches. I think it's to irritate and drive their point home. It's certainly irritating I'll give them that.

I haven't RTFT but for everyone amazed that no one stepped in, people don't. I was out for a meal with one of my DC (just about an adult) a couple of years ago in a small but busy restaurant when one customer assaulted another. Aside from the staff (who hustled the assailant out along with her mates, phoned the police etc), the only customers who got involved were a woman who started filming the incident (turned out she had safeguarding experience or something, we had a chat), me, and my DC. The staff clearly needed help as the assailant was trying to get back in.

Everyone else - maybe 12/15 people - just sat there like lummocks.

It's also a threat display, sublimated violence.

Creates a physical impact, near faces, invasive, threatening, intended to alarm. It's half an inch from full blown loss of control and striking the person being clapped at.

Probably tried to diffuse the situation by saying I'm sorry I misgendered you (if that was the case & I think we're speculating), then carried on with my day. I wouldn't have started shouting & getting involved.

So that's the suggestion then. We cringe, grovel and apologise our way through life lest we upset any men. Even if they're abusing us and stealing from us.

I wonder what will happen now?
In that, will the women get her money back?
With the site be subject to protests for TRA or women's groups?
I wouldn't like to have to deal with the fall out from this.
Do we know if any of the parties have spoken about the incident?

I was asked what I'd do & that was my answer, that's what I'd have done with any person. I would have wanted to diffuse not shout & irritate the situation more.

I think the guy in the American store tried that with the six foot person in pink screaming 'call me ma'am'.

It didn't work well.

This incident, and the victim’s refusal to take being called transphobic, made me think of something I read about how the 16th century was a time when people got into fights a lot because your honour was crucial to conducting business so if someone impugned it you would feel you had to stand up for yourself.
I think we are in a similar place now. If someone calls you transphobic you might feel you can’t just roll your eyes and say ‘whatever’ because if it sticks it is going to do you a lot of harm. We have turned into a shame culture again and that is also going to make us a touchier one because reputation is once more important.

I mean I don't know if anyone would have become violent or not, don't misunderstand me here in answer to your comment @FlirtsWithRhinos

Not to mention that it wasn't just 'say you're sorry'.

It was 'leave this store' and 'give me your phone'.

I'm glad this man found out how little importance the adult world places on your special identity.

He's probably been indulged as a student and online to the point that he believes his theyness allows him to behave like this with justification.

I would imagine that the sacked employee was a major pita as a colleague. The drama, the clapping hands, the violence at the end. And the rest of them can now breath out.

They read out a statement from Starbucks who apologised for the bad treatment the customer received and said the barista had lost his job.

I'd like to know if there's going to be police involvement. He assaults the guy outside - tries to slap his phone away, and then you hear the filmer saying "Let go of you" while crazy Starbucks guy demands he give him his phone. That's not legal.

Absolutely this, and even worse that schools join in and attempt to validate it.

*"let go of me"

Indeed. I bet Starbucks are to delighted to have a solid gold reason to sack him.

if it's the same person as in that video, it looks like he picks up every single person who doesn't notice the instructions on his earrings.

I heard him call her "Karen". They played the video clip on the news and it was very clear.

I might but these just in case I bump into him.

Blimey that aggression