Transwoman wins women's US cycling race & gets $35k prize

[MrsJamin]

Austin Killips won the Tour of the Gila women's race www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-of-the-gila-2023/stage-5-women/results/
Just outrageous. Any tweet by the organisers mentioning Killips has restricted comments (but of course many quote tweets)
It's getting more and more ridiculous:

• the rider retained their original male first name, Austin.
• they rode for the Amy D Foundation, set up to encourage and support young women through cycling, inspiring the celebration of healthy challenge and empowering the confident pursuit of lofty dreams.
• this is the first year the women's prize money is the same as the men's.

You couldn't make it up. When will the most sports-loving country in the world protect and give a shit about women in sport?

It's been an educational experience to learn how various sports authorities have simply not included female athletes in any of the discussions about transgender inclusion during the past decades they considered various solutions.

It's as if the problem was initially defined in such a way that those who are stakeholders do not include female athletes, so the negative consequences for them are reduced to some quick muttering about 'fairness' while column space in articles has been spent elaborating on the difficulties and struggles of transwomen in sports.

And even now this continues, with the assumption that the female athletes should do something to fix the problem and if they don't, they approve of the takeover of their sports. Never mind what happened to Riley Gaines, say, when she did stand up.

I don’t think any gender ideologists think of impact on women

Same goes for a Green MP defending self ID this morning

It is wholly centred on men

All of this. It isn't fair to expect women to miss out in order to fix a problem not of their making.

The issue with boycotts is that unless the vast majority of women do it, it makes no difference at all, and unfortunately the majority of women won't do it because of the very real fear of being branded transphobic. If Josephine Bloggs boycotts a race/game, everyone else carries on as normal and Josephine has to give up the sport they love.

The only one I'm aware of that's made a difference was the threatened boycott that prevented Emily Bridges from racing. The two key things about that one were the extremely high profile nature of those proposing the boycott (Laura Kenny's name was speculated) and the fact they remained anonymous.

I think the only way change will come is from sports increasingly being dominated by a few transwomen, which will cause enough of a public outcry that sporting federations are forced to change their rules to exclude males from female competition. This is happening in some sports already, but others will be much slower to recognise it as a problem. Some may never do so.

#Nepeta, as a member said in another thread, women is a really unfortunate, imprecise, ambiguous term, worse than useless really, but ABSOLUTELY TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN...so of course the cycling federations would ignore women other than TW.

And this is the result. As an argument, it's both condescending to the point of absolute insult, yet a steel trap, resulting in this total shambles.

But if you're gonna consciously downgrade women yet only listen the the TW who claim they're women...

The worlds gone mad!!

I think the reason this stuff has gained such purchase and influenced decision makers to the extent it has is that finally MRAs have found a way to present white, able bodied, heterosexual, biological male humans as the most oppressed group and have everyone centre everything around them in the name of ‘social justice’.

What a lovely looking group of women! Maybe they're born wi...oh wait 😮

There is no need for the women to boycott. They could:

• all agree to hold their own prize ceremony after the official one with the correct top 3
• they could refuse to acknowledge the name cyclist during the race and at prize giving
• they found all purposely go slow and finish as a group together
• they could get off and walk a short distance - anything basically to let the man win by miles
• they could hand their medals back

That said it would need everyone to agree and participate, it's easy to ban one person but not a whole group

Looking at our favourite cycling MN plopper on Twitter, apparently us women have no interest in cycling and are also too stupid to understand that in cycling GC stands for General Classification, so we’re getting all furious about nothing.

I think some people live in their own little woke bubbles and don’t have a fucking clue just how much women (and plenty of men) are getting more and more furious about males taking women’s opportunities, victories and prize money.

And they then get singled out as transphobic, not just their careers in sport at risk, but the careers that put food on the table, contracts terminated for being hateful.

Why do you think Lia Thomas teammates stayed quiet? They were all told their applications to study at Ivy League and other colleges were at risk, they would be turned down at interview stage...boom, career over.

Only now is Riley Gaines making a stand. And despite this, her former teammates still stay quiet or only complain anonymously.

Having seen Riley trapped in a room full of apparently too scared to do anything police, with a screaming mob of nutcases outside demanding for her to be handed over so they can tear her limb from limb?

It would take immense courage for her team mates to stand up and go 'come be terrifyingly insanely violent at me too'. However this is what it is going to take. Which is why I have such immense respect for the women who go to LWS events because they know the risks they are taking.

GrannieD that's so bad, how dare a man claim a woman's place. It doesn't matter if it is Parkrun or the Olympics, it is cheating and stealing.

I hope you get to read this before MN inevitably delete it.

It’ll be her that’s reporting all these posts too 🙄

I really hope the monitors are looking in.

From the 2022 YouGov survey on trans rights attitudes:

The public are strongly opposed to trans women athletes participating in women’s sporting events, by 61% versus just 16% who are supportive.

And it’s only going one way.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/articles-reports/2022/07/20/where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights

How many more entitled males will steal prize money from women's sport before Cycling Wakes up and makes biological males race against other males? It is sickening and killing off Women's Sport. Trans people could have a category of their own not barge their way into Woman's category. I'd refuse to race if a male was in my race. All women should make a stand and refuse to race male cheats dressed as woman.

All women should make a stand and refuse to race male cheats dressed as woman.

And men should stand in solidarity with women and refuse to race in the male event if there are male cheats in the women's event.

This is a problem caused by males which is having an adverse effect on women. Other men need to step up and help. They can show how welcoming they are to 'transwomen' in the men's event.

I agree that men should be helping, but once again it would take solid agreement from a large number - if a single male competitor drops out it achieves little.

If a single GC man wanted to help he could do something like the power lifter from a few weeks ago: ‘identify as a woman’, enter the race and if he won - which is likely, though nothing is certain in cycle racing - he could give the medal and prize money to the first female finisher.

When three biological males won the 800m medals at the Olympics the women who complained of unfairly missing out on medals were absolutely monstered for being bitter mediocrities, sore losers, crying 'white women's tears,' and being nasty, bigoted racists. (Never mind that the three women who'd lost their chance to compete at the Olympics were almost certainly black.) In certain loud quarters there was utter glee at being able to treat women like shit and then call them hateful bitches if they even dared to speak up. It was horrible to see.

Sporting bodies should be the ones making a stand. They shouldn't be putting women in a position where their careers and reputations are ruined for pointing out observable material reality.

Spot on EsmaCannonball. It's the sports governing bodies responsible for all this. They're the ones responsible for listening to the gender fantasists that TWAW. They're the ones who ignore facts, science and fairness in favour of promoting cheating while calling it inclusion. And they're the ones who've threatened and coerced women into silence - want a career in sport and funding - then shut up about the male colonisation of women's sport. Only silent compliant women may participate.

I think it will only stop when the money starts talking, people won’t want to watch a bunch of mediocre males competing in the women’s category when they can watch elite males in men’s. The public will lose interest and therefore sponsors will lose interest. It’s money that matters to all the sporting bodies, protecting women’s sports seems secondary to that.

Austin has no stats in procyclingstats prior to last year...someone coming out of nowhere (born 95 so not like it is because of age) to suddenly win, basically only one reason for that, doping. But hey, it's legalised doping so all is good.

Someone asked why the men who compete honestly with other men don’t speak out. Sadly, it’s because they fear losing their incomes for being “transphobic”. Whilst that’s not easy to defend ethically, these people will have mortgages and other financial commitments.

The “be kind” nutters have done a great job of driving honesty underground

Of course it isn't fair. People expecting this to be fixed out of fairness are the biggest thing holding back fixing the problem. It wont be. The people pushing this stuff are not interested in fair. At all. When that finally sinks in that women aren't going to appease their way out of this situation, there might finally be the actual action taken needed to reverse all this.

No woman should agree to compete against men in competitive women's sports. If women as a group stopped doing so, this would end within the month.

The vast majority of people around the world are on women's side in this. Even my Leftie friends say things like "I support trans people but they shouldn't be allowed to compete with other women."

The people and organisations which push this stuff will NOT change their minds. Nobody is going to say "oh you're right it isn't fair, I'll stop being a narcissist who will steal 35k from a woman who has trained most of her life for this."

This stops when woman as a group say "No" and until they do so it will continue. "Fair", "should", "shouldn't", "people will realise..." - none of these change anything. You can hope they will, you can want them to with all your heart. They do not.

If women don't want to compete against men then they must stop competing against men. Not wanting to do something and continuing to do it, does not stop that thing from happening.