Adult son's voting intentions-a little shocked.

[CurlewKate]

My son lives in Rosie Duffield constituency. We live in a nearby constituency where they weigh the Conservative votes rather than count them. I've been reminding him that he really must get on the electoral register where he lives-he's a very political person and a vociferous left winger. He's been putting it off-he still uses this as his permanent address. Yesterday he finally told me that he's intending to stay on the register here and vote for a local independent. He says that while he couldn't actually vote Tory, he'd rather the Tory candidate won than Duffield. I am quite shaken by this!

It's his decision. That's all there is to it.

So he's choosing to vote for the Party of Kemi Badenoch and Rishi Sunak?

That really doesn't compute for me.

Curlew, we all worry about our children in some way or another, even when they are grown up. As long as we don't inflict our own worries on our offspring, that's OK. Better to talk about it somewhere like here.

There should be no judgement of you on this thread for what you have expressed.

The degradation of British values. A lot of people feel they don't recognise the country they once knew and loved. In the face of so much societal change the tories can offer a push back. If you look at the core tory demographic and the things that appeal to them, factor in all the other votes they'll hoover up along the way e.g. some women who are glad the tories know how biology works then chuck in the silent tories then you're good to go. I do think this time it might be hard to tell given the country is currently a bin fire but suffering is a national kink.

@AutumnCrow "So he's choosing to vote for the Party of Kemi Badenoch and Rishi Sunak?

That really doesn't compute for me"

No he's not. The reason he wants to vote from his old home is to vote for an excellent Independent candidate.

Fair comment. You can feel how you want — me too.

Would you call yourself a feminist, OP? I just find it a bit odd that you'd post on a feminist forum and then appear to be surprised when you get a feminist, pro-women's rights response.

Ah, OK, I see what you're saying OP. He's banking on there being an excellent Independent candidate in your constituency in the next General Election, but not in his own constituency where he lives.

And in the meantime he doesn't care if where he lives gets a Tory MP.

@Pluvia Yes, I am a feminist. I expected pro women, feminist responses and an interesting, robust discussion. What I didn't expect was to be told that if I had been a BETTER feminist, my adult children would not be involved in trans ideology. But mothers are always an easy target. Hey ho.

Whoever told you that crap about uk votes being weighed not counted, was an irresponsible liar.

Don’t think I’ve ever read such a self-confidently condescending statement, that was so hilariously wrong.

He needs to vote in his own constituency, surely there must be more than 2 candidates.

@AutumnCrow He knows there will be an excellent independent candidate in my constituency. And he minds very much that there is likely to be a tory candidate in his. He just feels that this particular ideology trumps that. As he said to me "You wouldn't vote for an anti Semite. It's exactly the same."

At one point I said "But respecting trans rights in some contexts inevitably means disrespecting women's rights" and was met with a retort of "So?"

Reflective of the whole repellent movement.

"At one point I said "But respecting trans rights in some contexts inevitably means disrespecting women's rights" and was met with a retort of "So?"" Mine would say that no it doesn't because TWAW.

He sounds like an MRA. The idiot thing - yep, I also think he sounds like an idiot. I wouldn't be happy if I had raised someone who thought so little of women.

Having said this I know that this ideology is harmful and toxic and has a horrible herd mentality element to it. It's easier for people to go with the flow and many do.

Yes, I am a feminist. I expected pro women, feminist responses and an interesting, robust discussion. What I didn't expect was to be told that if I had been a BETTER feminist, my adult children would not be involved in trans ideology. But mothers are always an easy target. Hey ho.

I'm not sure about being a better feminist. I'm just mindful that the minute women pointed out that your son is part of the anti-women's rights movement and thus a problem as far as most of us are concerned, you told us off for not responding better and more positively to you. Hence my follow-up posts trying to work out what you were looking for from a feminist board.

I'd be more concerned that your son calls free thinking women TERFs to be honest. Lots of us TERFs don't like it, yet I wear it like a badge of honour!

They weigh votes instead of counting? What?!

You've brought up a young man who, despite saying he's of the left, will vote right rather than vote for a woman upholding women's rights. How anti-women is that? But many on this board think on the issue on which Rosie Duffield is not supported by her leadership at a party level the right are speaking much more clearly in favour of the right to privacy and dignity.

But that's not why he is voting right is it?

I'm getting confused now.

Are we talking about the upcoming local elections or a General Election?

If the local elections, he wouldn't be voting for Rosie Duffield but for Labour councillors, so no reason to not be registered in the constituency he lives in and vote Labour.

If the General Election, it doesn't matter if he votes for an "excellent independent candidate in my constituency", you've said the Tory will be a shoo-in. So the Tory will win in your constituency, and Labour will be one vote down in his constituency.

I'm confused as to what your son's thinking is on professing to be left-wing.

@Pluvia"you told us off for not responding better and more positively to you."

Did I? Pretty sure I didn't tell anyone off!

It's just an expression, meaning that the support for one particular party in that constituency is overwhelming. An exaggeration of 'weighed in favour of', if you will.

We're talking the coming general election. The local independent candidate is who we have always voted for because of the whole weighing Tory votes things🤣 and he intended to Carrollton on doing the same. I don't know who he intends to vote for in the local elections.

But the position of the Canterbury Conservative Party - who would select and probably produce the next Tory MP if one were to beat Rosie Duffield - is that TW Are Men.

An excellent Independent may well think the same.