Adult son's voting intentions-a little shocked.

[CurlewKate]

My son lives in Rosie Duffield constituency. We live in a nearby constituency where they weigh the Conservative votes rather than count them. I've been reminding him that he really must get on the electoral register where he lives-he's a very political person and a vociferous left winger. He's been putting it off-he still uses this as his permanent address. Yesterday he finally told me that he's intending to stay on the register here and vote for a local independent. He says that while he couldn't actually vote Tory, he'd rather the Tory candidate won than Duffield. I am quite shaken by this!

'I am quite shaken after finding out that my adult son will be voting for someone I don't approve of.' 😂😂😂

LMFAO!!! Mumsnet really is the gift that keeps on giving some days! 😄

If he uses the term terf as a pejorative then he absolutely is a men's rights activist.

He's been putting it off-he still uses this as his permanent address. Yesterday he finally told me that he's intending to stay on the register here

That is YOUR responsibility, not his. Every year the householder is sent a form to confirm the named qualifying RESIDENTS of the property to the local Electoral Roll. You just tell them the truth, he is NOT a resident at your address. He will then be deleted from local electoral roll and it's up to him to re-register at his genuine address.

Whoever told you that crap about uk votes being weighed not counted, was an irresponsible liar.

@2bazookas "Whoever told you that crap about uk votes being weighed not counted, was an irresponsible liar." 🤣🤣🤣Simply a figure of speech. Although they could, in this constituency. They could put up a monkey in a blue ribbon..... oh, shit, you're not going to take that literally too, are you?

I did post in "Feminism and Woman's Rights" didn't I? Phew-for a moment I thought I'd made a mistake.

Back in the constituency I grew up in, the phrase was "they could stick a red rosette on a monkey and it would get voted in". Damn near proved it too, with some of the candidates.

He's a Men's Rights Activist by default if he wouldn't consider voting for Rosie Duffield.

I'd contact the electoral register and say that he no longer lives at your address and give them his new address. He can vote for whoever he wants, but from his own address.

I think perhaps there's a clue there about why/ how he's turned out the way he has...

OP, I really don't know why you'd proffer up your son for such mocking and ridicule on a thread like this. An idiot, a men's rights hypocrite and an example of the authoritarian schooling of young people which has robbed them of the ability to think critically?

Only that not what she said at all.

She's shaken that a Labour supporter would rather the Conservative candidate won and is not voting Labour to enable that hope.

Labour seems to be driving voters away on both sides of the fence on this topic.

I think we could all LMFAO at Labour being the gift that keeps on giving in the last couple of years on this topic and I expect people such as yourself will ensure this continues right up to the election.

Well in this regard he clearly is I'm afraid.

@DojaPhat Because I assumed adult women might be interested in discussing the issue we have with active young people and how they are going to vote in the forthcoming general election, which is going to be very tight. It didn't cross my mind that he would be ridiculed. Maybe the Feminist board is not what it was.

Yes, but HE still needs to fill in the annual electoral form doesn't he?

Because I assumed adult women might be interested in discussing the issue we have with active young people and how they are going to vote in the forthcoming general election, which is going to be very tight. It didn't cross my mind that he would be ridiculed. Maybe the Feminist board is not what it was.

How bizarre. The feminist board is exactly what it should be — pro-women and woman-centric. You've brought up a young man who, despite saying he's of the left, will vote right rather than vote for a woman upholding women's rights. How anti-women is that? And apparently you're not prepared to take even the smallest measure — making sure he votes from his own address — to distance yourself from him.

He's the problem, OP. He's a man who would have the word 'woman' mean nothing more than some vague concept to describe people who like wearing women's clothing. I know plenty of parents of young men (and young women) who are actively pointing out how misogynistic this kind of thinking is to their children. And some of them are paying the price for doing so.

Not you, obviously.

I didn't like to say.

You are far more diplomatic than me, Beetle.

Thinking more carefully, does this offer a clue about all those male TRAs who turn out at JKJ's and other events? So many of the boys and men are middle-class and university educated and I've often wondered what their mums think of them deciding it's a good thing to attack women's rights. I've assumed they'd be appalled if they knew, but clearly not.

Well you may think he is not an idiot -I couldn't possibly say - but as he is calling RD a TERF I think we can comfortably surmise that he is indeed an MRA.

This.

How do you feel about his use of the term 'terf'? Do you find it acceptable for him to call women this? Presumably he actually said this to you, how did you respond?

A lot of these young men use their mothers on the one hand and despise them on the other. Some young women do this too. By 'hating on terfs' they can channel their middle-class Jungian confusions into something that gets them applauded at university by their peers and trendy lecturers.

The voting malarkey is just the tip of the ice berg.

Fuck off and die woman but first can you sort out my entry on the electoral register and send me some money.

By the time this thread trails off your son will be considered a danger to women and you a failure as a parent. Can't imagine why you thought the thread would go any other way.

I have a pair of my own youth, one told me I was ridiculous as no-one wanted male rapists in women's prisons, I was making it up. Then there were male rapists in women's prisons because that's what was wanted.

They read free stuff from the Guardian and such like and get a very limited view on a lot of subjects.

A young female family member of the Potter generation said that JK Rowling shouldn't have said anything. It's not what she said, she simply ought not to mention the unmentioned, it's not nice.

This generation is surprisingly traditional on this really, thinking it's not done to mention that TW are men, we know but don't talk about it as that's something to discreetly ignore, and trusting that although no-one talks about this as it's not polite, there obviously must be polite but discreet people already managing the rapist issue.

It's a bit odd how we have to politely look away from the sexual nature of it at the same time as sex is everywhere, in every Netflix show, every hook up site, every social media, non stop public humping like randy dogs, but 20 somethings are appalled if we mention sex in relation to wearing women's clothes.

I think it's the only acceptable modern prudery TBH and they are appalled that older people have the cheek to know something about it and talk about it square on.

And a bigot. "You don't agree with me, therefore you must be TERF!"

@WhereYouLeftIt He didn't use the term terf. He wouldn't use it in front of me-and I hope not anywhere else. But I know that is what he believes. I just didn't realise how strongly.

Or maybe we'll just discuss our kids. On Mumsnet? That does happen.